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This was just a matter of time for that Boy Scout building. 

The Euclid building was clearly designed and built for something else to go next to it. 

Another building that looks like it was designed this way is the new hotel in downtown Clayton near the Clayton Transit Center. 

Excited to hear about what might be coming for the Central West End. 

At least we know what the Optimist will be.

Boy Scouts site I’m expecting a continuance of “The Euclid”.

Red Cross Site, that’s an interesting one. I’d be shocked if the buyer decides to demolish and replace.

All 3 sites are excellent choices. All that’s needed is the Engineer’s Club site to return as well as that project “41Lindell”. You need these big ones to keep the neighborhood going and push Albion to happen (or in my hopes, cancelled with the previous, non-public plan being the preferred pathway).

^ I remember you talking about the non-public version they considered before the current(?) proposal. I know you didn't want to leak many details (beyond density) but can you at least give a perspective on height and how it would look in between the two existing towers?

pdm_ad wrote: ↑

Sep 11, 2024

^ I remember you talking about the non-public version they considered before the current(?) proposal. I know you didn't want to leak many details (beyond density) but can you at least give a perspective on height and how it would look in between the two existing towers?

I still don’t want to dive into it too much, but the public plans are actually denser on the units per floor side of things. The non-public design was much more appropriate and fitting for the site and would’ve served as a true beacon for the neighborhood. The architects spent a good amount of time working on the little details (like the materials on the facade, the design the shadows would cast on the ground, and how the apartments were laid out). It’s a shame it may never be.

TBH don't want the 41Lindell project resuscitated, it somehow managed to increase the number of curb cuts along Lindell, which there are already far too many of. 

^ it was an awful awful proposal: a super ugly, cheap looking, boxy superblock with a bunch of curb cuts set back behind driveways and drop-off lanes. no thanks.

$8.2M building permit application submitted for rehab of 600 N Kingshighway

Any rumors of Kindred Hospital wanting a new location? Time for those parking lots to hit the market.

Any plans for the corner vacant lots at Washington and Taylor, as well as the LH building?


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Looks like People's Health owns one corner for at least 30 years and the other by someone in Imperial. I think the latter is a recent sale.

^Keeps me up at night wondering how in the world CWE is so vacant between Delmar and Olive after all these years.

Would love to see some kind of ownership analysis of that area. My suspicion is that there's lots of speculators holding land they bet will be worth millions at some point in the future but the property tax for a mowed lawn is affordable. 

Opening Walton Ave between Westminster and Olive would help.

^Newstead also stops in its tracks rather oddly,

I would love to see a focus to areas like this by the city with investigating land owners and incentives. Sometimes, we want to just say “invest in Vandeventer and Fountain Park!” and there has been some streets here and there with improvement but it really will take filling out the central corridor. Expansion of development north would be fairly natural. I really think these neighborhoods are on the verge of taking off but really targeting the north end of CWE, Grand Center aggressively for dense development will force some new housing, probably lower density single family infill and rehabs to go into those neighborhoods like Vandeventer, Fountain Park, Academy, Visitation Park, Lewis Place which still have good SFH bones.

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote: ↑

Feb 04, 2025

^Keeps me up at night wondering how in the world CWE is so vacant between Delmar and Olive after all these years.

According to a number of local sources, City Hall is behind some of the holdups. The man behind the Kingsway development Kevin Bryant, said he was being given the silent treatment from city hall when he tried to gain additional funds. That is until he was approached by the ex girlfriend of the mayor's Dad promising better access to City Hall if he would hire her for $5k as a consultant. The woman Cory Elliott, then was arranged a meeting with the Mayor,  Virvus Jones (Mayor's Dad), Neal Richardson and others. Ms Elliott the demanded another $20K which he refused to pay so his access stopped. The is not the first time Elliott has been involved but other Northside developers have not been as vocal out of fear their projects will also get stalled. Her companys in her name have also received numerous contracts from the LRA. Unfortunately shortly after she was notified that she was under investigation her house in O'Fallon mysteriously caught fire, she was badly burned and  Virvus Jones Tesla in the garage was destroyed. 

^ I can't speak on any of the personal drama, but fwiw it's been reported that one of Bryant's complaints is that he wants the City to back TIF bonds... that's a non-starter and something that cities learned long ago not to do.  I'm also not a fan of awarding "master development" rights over large areas like he has, or at least had.... apparently there is legal dispute over the city supporting a redevelopment of a building on Delmar by a different developer.

Virvus Jones not only driving a Tesla but having it burn in some kind of sketchy fire is just too good. The are writers really coming through for us this year.

Cool. How is that related to CWE infill?

This city’s politicians want to be Chicago-like so badly when it comes to grift and corruption. And what the SLPS does with tax payer money is icing on the cake. One big kleptocracy. Wake up.

$600k building permit application submitted for rehab of 5225 Lindell

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:Demo has been ongoing for a while.  Lots of material has been pulled.  Glad to see this rehab happening!

Good to see this one saved for sure


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quincunx wrote: ↑

Mar 01, 2025

$600k building permit application submitted for rehab of 5225 Lindell

Issued