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Pie Guy's new bar is now open in the old Gezellig space. 

Former Layla is being converted into Good Company, a fancy cocktail bar. Aiming for spring

Neon Greens opening in the spring as well

Parlor is closed which I would say is a net positive 

1401 Tower Grove
Developer Spitzberg-Lassen
Rendering by architect Design Alliance.
14 2-story townhomes over 14 garden apts. 28 parking spaces, the max.
No tax incentives.

Hey, that looks pretty nice!

^ Agreed, I'm a fan.  Wouldn't mind a few more of these sprinkled around.  Also, thanks for the updates, Harv.

Cut and paste this project all over DT West/Midtown please.

The closure was really abrupt from what I recall, kinda suspicious. 

SouthCityJR wrote: ↑

Nov 22, 2023

Cut and paste this project all over DT West/Midtown please.

Acq cost here was about $25k per unit or $31 /sf. So the rub is getting land speculators to sell for that much

Ex SLU thinks the land at 3221 and 3225 Olive is worth $90 per sf and the former owner of the SE corner of Delmar and Skinker got $150 per sf. These are pretty prominent locations of course.

And there's plenty of NIMBYs that will balk at 50 units per acre density. You'd need a variance in A, B, and C zoning districts. We need zoning reform.

quincunx wrote: ↑

Nov 23, 2023

SouthCityJR wrote: ↑

Nov 22, 2023

Cut and paste this project all over DT West/Midtown please.

Acq cost here was about $25k per unit or $31 /sf. So the rub is getting land speculators to sell for that much

Ex SLU thinks the land at 3221 and 3225 Olive is worth $90 per sf and the former owner of the SE corner of Delmar and Skinker got $150 per sf. These are pretty prominent locations of course.

And there's plenty of NIMBYs that will balk at 50 units per acre density. You'd need a variance in A, B, and C zoning districts. We need zoning reform.

Agreed.  The more expense the land the more dense the project needs to be to spread out costs.  

NextSTL - Spitzberg-Lassen Proposes Rowhouses at Tower Grove and Vista in FPSE

https://nextstl.com/2023/11/spitzberg-l ... a-in-fpse/

quincunx wrote: ↑

Dec 09, 2023

The Board of Adjustment will consider a medical spa at 4452 Manchester at Taylor at its Dec 20 meeting

Existing building, or do we not know yet?

In the existing building.

What is going on at Vandeventer 1238? There is work going on for sure but I don't know if I've seen a post. Loopnet shows a rendering on the for lease page. Can anyone confirm that the rendering is accurate?

$275k building permit applications submitted for 6 new homes on the 4400 block of Vista.

flipz wrote: ↑

Jan 08, 2024

What is going on at Vandeventer 1238? There is work going on for sure but I don't know if I've seen a post. Loopnet shows a rendering on the for lease page. Can anyone confirm that the rendering is accurate?

Yes, I believe so. A company called TCARE.

Is this listing for 4014 Chouteau, aka the triangle, active?

https://www.paceproperties.com/mm/files ... ochure.pdf

The old brick buildings clean up well when fixed.

$250k building permit application submitted for a restaurant at the former Beast, 4156 Manchester. Anyone know more?