$300k building permit issued for new home at 4368 Hunt. A shotgun house was demolished in 2022.
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StlToday - St. Louis Science Center 'exploring sale' of land
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/bus ... 69729.htmlST. LOUIS — The St. Louis Science Center said it is "exploring" a sale of land it owns off South Kingshighway Boulevard.
The 1-acre parcel is located at Kingshighway and Manchester Avenue, at the western end of the Grove commercial district. The property, which the organization has owned for 24 years, has been used as greenspace, often with native plants and other gardens.
Mindy Peirce, spokeswoman for the science center, said the organization is aiming to "optimize its asset utilization."
The property, Peirce said, has not been "meaningfully utilized" by the science center in recent years. "We do not have plans to change that," she said.
Commercial real estate firm Sansone Group is shopping the property for the center, online marketing materials show.
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Is this the land at Kingshighway and Manchester? the NE Corner?
Looks like it: https://sansonegroup.com/property/nec-k ... perties%2FSTLCityMike wrote: ↑Jan 08, 2025Is this the land at Kingshighway and Manchester? the NE Corner?
Would love to see development at that site. Though of course with any luck it will probably be a Dobbs tire or something, to complete the quadfecta of the BP, Jiffy Lube and auto body shop that are already on that corner.
The entrance to the Grove between Kingshighway and Taylor is so sad right now.
FPSE Form Based Code requires a minimum building height of 3 stories. What will be built there will be some type of residential or mixed use:
- Courtyard Building,
- High Rise Residential Building,
- Podium Building,
- Commercial Block Building
- Flex Building
The only acceptable use.doellingd wrote: [li]High Rise Residential Building, [/li]
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Was interesting to read about the history of the site. We coulda had a White Castle but NIMBYs gotta NIMBY!
Seems like every corner was or threatened to be a gas station or drive thru fast food. What a country!
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^ Still hoping that SLU can deliver that Quick trip to Grand and 44... Make America Gas Again!
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Don’t forget the storage units!!!
Not to bring up Trader Joe’s again, but wasn’t a TJs rumored years ago at VandyMan? Is Croma on that foot print?
And wasn’t the land at Vandy/Clayton Ave for sale with apartment renderings recently? Did it sell?
Not to bring up Trader Joe’s again, but wasn’t a TJs rumored years ago at VandyMan? Is Croma on that foot print?
And wasn’t the land at Vandy/Clayton Ave for sale with apartment renderings recently? Did it sell?
Someone from the high-ups in park central dev. posted that this triangle lot could not possibly host multifamily or commercial. (It'll likely be signature green space or an extension of the existing affordable senior housing there).
Calling @Elek.borrelli !
Hard no on green space. It would be a waste of space. Who would want to hang out next to that traffic sewer? And expose whoever might to the danger and pollution?
Hard no on green space. It would be a waste of space. Who would want to hang out next to that traffic sewer? And expose whoever might to the danger and pollution?
Don't fall for "it's too small or awkwardly shaped to build anything."
In the 1999 FPSE Revitalization Plan a concept for the site did show a southern leg to the senior living facility with a smaller interactive science park.
^^ Yeah, even if you exclude the eastern, most triangular parcel on that site, the western two parcels are fairly regular in shape and bigger than the One Hundred Above the Park site.
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Those interested in what could be on the NE corner - and want to make sure it ain't crap - should request such from the STL Science Center itself. Let them know that people are interested in the 'right' development going in, expressing confidence in the viability of multistory residential or what not. I'm sure they are very interested in the vitality of their own neighborhood already; perhaps they could use some support towards these considerations. Polite letters to their executive leadership could accomplish this.
Highest and best use is greenspace?!?! Abdul is laughably wrong. Like he can't actually be serious, right?!
Manchester and Kingshighway doesn't seem like a nice spot for a picnic, I wish people would think about green spaces as a places for people to enjoy rather than 'we didnt know what to do with this vacant parcel so its a park now.'
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The most western parcel is 25,000 sq. ft. by itself, which is larger than the 19,000 sq. ft. site at 4101 Manchester that has the proposed (albeit apparently dead) midrise plan.TalkinDev wrote: ↑Jan 09, 2025^^ Yeah, even if you exclude the eastern, most triangular parcel on that site, the western two parcels are fairly regular in shape and bigger than the One Hundred Above the Park site.
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Who TF wants to “place make” across the street from a tire shop and gas station along a busy traffic corridor? This site is huge. It can accommodate plenty.
I’m tired of people pontificating about what a site can or can’t accomodate when it hasn’t even been marketed to developers yet.
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Excuse my ignorance, but who is Park Central, what is their role, and why are they issuing decrees?
I went to their website and the “what we do” link is a down webpage
I went to their website and the “what we do” link is a down webpage