There used to be a viaduct on 21st. I think it was gone by the late 80s.dweebe wrote: ↑Nov 28, 2021Just spitballin crazy ideas here: maybe extend over the rail tracks and connect with the 21st or 2nd streets behind Ameren and the Sheet Metal Workers training/union hall?
Thanks.
MoDOT to permanently close WB I-64 ramp to 3000 Market Street
ST. LOUIS – Drivers who have used the 3000 Market Street (Exit 38B) ramp from westbound Interstate 64 will need to determine new routes as the ramp will permanently close next week as part of constructing the new interchange at I-64 and Jefferson.
Crews will permanently close the ramp at 9 a.m. Monday, December 6 to remove it. Until the new ramp from westbound I-64 to 22nd Street opens before the end of the year, drivers will need to use the Forest Park Avenue exit (Exit 38A), turn right on Grand Boulevard and turn right on Lindell Boulevard. Drivers can follow Lindell until it becomes Olive Street and it intersects with Jefferson Avenue. Turning right on Jefferson will lead back to Market Street.
Removing this ramp allows traffic from Jefferson to flow more smoothly to westbound I-64, while also simplifying traffic flow from westbound I-64 to Forest Park Avenue.
Something is seriously wrong when your highway exit is wider than the highway itself. JFC.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Dec 23, 2021MoDot will open the new ramp from WB64 to Jefferson (and 22nd) overnight:
Unfortunately big part of it is the pre pandemic planning and traffic studies for this intersection not getting changed to meet a post pandemic world. The engineering of dropping the extra turn lane or two that is not needed, changing up slope and adding landscape is not that difficult in a digital world. Getting people to agree on changes in short order is still in the stone ages.
My guess is UPS probably had a say in the design.dredger wrote: ↑Dec 23, 2021Unfortunately big part of it is the pre pandemic planning and traffic studies for this intersection not getting changed to meet a post pandemic world. The engineering of dropping the extra turn lane or two that is not needed, changing up slope and adding landscape is not that difficult in a digital world. Getting people to agree on changes in short order is still in the stone ages.
But have you seen how long that ramp is from WB 40/64 to Hanley/Brentwood? The current EB 40/64 ramp is short, like 1/4 of the length.Miss Shell wrote: ↑Dec 23, 2021Why did they even bother building ramps on the west side of 22nd? I feel like they should have given it the Hanley/Brentwood treatment. Just travel on the outer road and enter the highway past the next overpass.
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MoDOT should perform a study to see what can be done to attract more traffic to the new ramp. Maybe more parking in Downtown West?dweebe wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2022Doesn't seem to be a ton of usage of the new ramp from WB 40/64 to Jefferson as you might see one or two cars (tops).
I took the new exit coming back from Central Illinois after Christmas. I was the only person on the ramp.dweebe wrote: ↑Jan 11, 2022Doesn't seem to be a ton of usage of the new ramp from WB 40/64 to Jefferson as you might see one or two cars (tops).
