I'm getting anxious to see this glass guys and gals. Who's stepping up to the plate?
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^ Honestly, I was down there friday and there isn't much to see.
Give me some time. I'm up against a due date for my capstone, and that is a little more important. Really, it's just one panel of glass.
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haha alright I was thinking there was a floor or two of glass already. Hard to figure out all the way in Cinci. No rush, just getting overexcited out here.
Interesting that they're using round columns. That's not common, is it? I wonder if they will be left exposed as a design element.
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Framer wrote:Interesting that they're using round columns. That's not common, is it? I wonder if they will be left exposed as a design element.
It's relatively common, especially where curtain walls are used. Although often times they are covered with some sort of interior finish so you wouldn't necessarily perceive them as round concrete columns. Like structural elements in most high rise buildings, these will likely be covered, for a variety of reasons.
While I'd personally like to see exposed concrete in the finished product, I'd imagine it'd be tough to sell to potential buyers. Most people just don't like concrete, even though I find it to be a beautiful material (especially when used correctly- think Tadao Ando).
^Thanks for the explanation.
Another thing I noticed is how the floor plates get (slightly) larger as the building climbs. There's an article in the current issue of Architecural Record that discusses a current trend in really dense cities where buildings are built with much greater floor area on the upper levels. Sort of like medieval Europe where people pushed their upper floors out over the sidewalks to gain more living space.
Of course, that's not what's going on with the Robert's Tower, but it's still interesting to see at least a minor example of the trend here in St. Louis.
Another thing I noticed is how the floor plates get (slightly) larger as the building climbs. There's an article in the current issue of Architecural Record that discusses a current trend in really dense cities where buildings are built with much greater floor area on the upper levels. Sort of like medieval Europe where people pushed their upper floors out over the sidewalks to gain more living space.
Of course, that's not what's going on with the Robert's Tower, but it's still interesting to see at least a minor example of the trend here in St. Louis.
I like!
I cannot wait until this sucker is 20 more stories up... I love this tower.
I also noticed that you can now see the crane from the south side of the skyline.
I cannot wait until this sucker is 20 more stories up... I love this tower.
I also noticed that you can now see the crane from the south side of the skyline.
With less than 10 historic buildings left to be rehabbed downtown it is only a matter of time before eyes start looking towards empty parking lots for new development. Hopefully this will be a model for what new residential/office construction will be like in downtown St. Louis "MODERN AND SLEAK".
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that's not bad. i'm a fan of the operable windows. not to worry though, i don't think this concrete is nice enough to be a finish material.
It will be interesting to see how long it takes to fill up this beautiful building at the prices they are looking for... The common area between the post office and the tower really turned out nice and could be a selling feature.
What is the list of the remaining historic buildings to be rehabbed? While I hate to see some developers caught up in the market slow down, at least, for the sake of the city, the buildings are rehabbed already and owners/tenants will surely follow (just at lower prices or as rentals).
Sean
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What is the list of the remaining historic buildings to be rehabbed? While I hate to see some developers caught up in the market slow down, at least, for the sake of the city, the buildings are rehabbed already and owners/tenants will surely follow (just at lower prices or as rentals).
Sean
Shaw
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SPICE1414 wrote:What is the list of the remaining historic buildings to be rehabbed?
Off the top of my head, the buildings in the CBD that are in need of rehab are:
Mercantile Library Complex
LaSalle Building
St. Louis Centre
Dillard's Building
Arcade Building
Chemical Building
United Way Building on Olive
Alverne
209 N. Fourth (Wm. A. Stickney Cigar Co.)
The strip of buildings owned by the Roberts Brothers in the 900 block of Locust
In Downtown West, there's the massive Plaza Square Building along with several other smaller buildings such as Dragon Trading and the Tire Mart.
Thanks! This list is incredibly short and I think it is encouraging. Most of the buildings on the list are very appealing and it's a matter of when not if they will be rehabbed.
Sean
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SPICE1414 wrote:Thanks! This list is incredibly short and I think it is encouraging. Most of the buildings on the list are very appealing and it's a matter of when not if they will be rehabbed.
Sean
Definitely. The Gill Building and the Farm & Home Savings Building are the latest to be removed from the list, and it's possible that the Dillard's Building and Chemical Building (Alexa) could be next. 209 N. Fourth is being nominated to the national historic register, so there could be plans for that one as well.
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Very short list compared to ten years ago.
I guess Arcade-Wright is the largest building in that list? Or is Dillard's bigger?
I guess Arcade-Wright is the largest building in that list? Or is Dillard's bigger?
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STLCardsBlues1989 wrote:I guess Arcade-Wright is the largest building in that list? Or is Dillard's bigger?
I think the Dillard's is bigger - it takes up an entire city block, whereas the Arcade is half a block.
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I live and work downtown and I'm liking this area more and more everytime I walk by there or go to lunch around there. Obviously it has a lot to do with the Roberts tower going up as well as the plaza which I think will eventually be a nice asset for downtown. You also have some nice storefronts in the Paul Brown building that will eventually get filled in...you have the Schnucks going in....the Syndicate is a beautiful building that will eventually house a Club Fitness (let the rumors begin). This area will be rocking as that list keeps dwindling and this is the area I would really like to see continue to build up. I'd also like to see some nightlife around this area...maybe adding a corner bar or somewhere late to hang out. I guess that will come as the population grows in this area. Anyways, things are looking up....
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Imagine the hustle and bustle of OPO square with a completed Arcade, Chemical, Roberts Tower, and Schnucks.
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STL_Rising wrote:I'd also like to see some nightlife around this area...maybe adding a corner bar or somewhere late to hang out.
I can think of a great spot for one, but the Roberts Brothers want to tear it down.
Dillard's is larger, almost 600,00 SF. By comparison, that is 1/3 to 1/2 a typical suburban mall.
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DeBaliviere wrote:STL_Rising wrote:I'd also like to see some nightlife around this area...maybe adding a corner bar or somewhere late to hang out.
I can think of a great spot for one, but the Roberts Brothers want to tear it down.
What about Jack Patricks.......
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It great that when you get off Metrolink at 8th and Pine the first thing you see is the Arcade building all boarded up and windows missing and plastic sheets blowin' in the wind. Those bay windows on that building are just mind-bogglingly huge and expertly crafted.
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Found myself downtown Sunday afternoon & I snapped a few pictures of the Roberts Tower. More glass has been installed. It's starting to look more like the rendering. I'm really looking forward to seeing this building progress.
Interesting thing. While I was taking the pictures I noticed a guy in a suit showing a young boy around the plaza & pointing out the water features. It wasn't until he climbed the stairs by the video screen that I realized it was Steven Roberts. I didn't really want to bother him while he was with ?his son? Plus, I'm not sure what I really would have said if he was within earshot, "Uh, Hey Steve. Nice building."
Interesting thing. While I was taking the pictures I noticed a guy in a suit showing a young boy around the plaza & pointing out the water features. It wasn't until he climbed the stairs by the video screen that I realized it was Steven Roberts. I didn't really want to bother him while he was with ?his son? Plus, I'm not sure what I really would have said if he was within earshot, "Uh, Hey Steve. Nice building."