They are new daily flights. On 767s. One starts Thursday. One starts next month. A third could run over the holidays. I’m pretty sure they are Amazon Prime Air related but not 100% on that.dredger wrote: I assume that the cargo carriers are essentially freight forwarders that are referenced in the Biz Journals article, essentially moving cargo into Lambert on existing flights. Plus side, any added cargo is a win
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... s_headline
Lambert is welcoming two new cargo carriers, but low cargo totals still frustrate the airport's director.
Anyone know if work ever began on the dual customs' facility? I can't find anything in the news that suggests it has.
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jshank83 wrote:They are new daily flights. On 767s. One starts Thursday. One starts next month. A third could run over the holidays. I’m pretty sure they are Amazon Prime Air related but not 100% on that.dredger wrote: I assume that the cargo carriers are essentially freight forwarders that are referenced in the Biz Journals article, essentially moving cargo into Lambert on existing flights. Plus side, any added cargo is a win
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... s_headline
Lambert is welcoming two new cargo carriers, but low cargo totals still frustrate the airport's director.
Daily flights beginning today
International load % for March
Volaris Huatulco 86%
Volaris Cabo 82%
Southwest Cancun 86%
Southwest Punta Cana 90%
Southwest Montego Bay 93%
Frontier Cancun 88%
Frontier Punta Cana 83%
Air Canada 63%
Volaris Huatulco 86%
Volaris Cabo 82%
Southwest Cancun 86%
Southwest Punta Cana 90%
Southwest Montego Bay 93%
Frontier Cancun 88%
Frontier Punta Cana 83%
Air Canada 63%
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^What? It's nicer to go to the Caribbean in March than Toronto? Who'd have guessed it! 
All that said, those do like like some decent lad factors. But is March right? Volaris wasn't on that route in March, were they?
All that said, those do like like some decent lad factors. But is March right? Volaris wasn't on that route in March, were they?
Volaris has been doing Apple Vacations all year. Those were the 2 they ran in March. HUX will drop off for Puerto Vallerta in April I think.symphonicpoet wrote:^What? It's nicer to go to the Caribbean in March than Toronto? Who'd have guessed it!
All that said, those do like like some decent lad factors. But is March right? Volaris wasn't on that route in March, were they?
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^Well, that shows you what I know. I was thinking it was still Swift handling Apple Vacations in March. I am apparently completely out of it.
It is a calendar year thing.symphonicpoet wrote:^Well, that shows you what I know. I was thinking it was still Swift handling Apple Vacations in March. I am apparently completely out of it.
2018 Swift
2019 Volaris
2020 Viva Aerobus
June Load %
Above 95%
Frontier - Orlando
Southwest - SFO/San Diego/Sacramento
Allegiant- Vegas
Above 90%
Alaska - San Diego
AA - PHL/LAX/MIA/PHX/DCA
Delta - ATL/Detroit/SLC
Frontier - Vegas/Denver
Southwest-DCA/TPA/SEA/SJC/San Antonio/Portland/PHX/Orland/Omaha/OAK/ LGA/Nashville/LAX/Vegas/Hartford/Fort Myers/Denver/Austin
United-Denver/Houston/Newark/SFO/DC
Allegiant-Fort Lauderdale/Orland/Punta Gorda/Tampa
Full Spreadsheet:
Above 95%
Frontier - Orlando
Southwest - SFO/San Diego/Sacramento
Allegiant- Vegas
Above 90%
Alaska - San Diego
AA - PHL/LAX/MIA/PHX/DCA
Delta - ATL/Detroit/SLC
Frontier - Vegas/Denver
Southwest-DCA/TPA/SEA/SJC/San Antonio/Portland/PHX/Orland/Omaha/OAK/ LGA/Nashville/LAX/Vegas/Hartford/Fort Myers/Denver/Austin
United-Denver/Houston/Newark/SFO/DC
Allegiant-Fort Lauderdale/Orland/Punta Gorda/Tampa
Full Spreadsheet:
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Welp, looks like that cargo facility where the old MDD building was is dead. Seems weird for the airport to have pulled out of this (if that's even what happened), given how much cargo was emphasized in the current Five Year Plan. Wonder if the privatization crap had anything to do with it? A shame it won't happen now, in any case.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... V0lFIn0%3D
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... V0lFIn0%3D
Here is the Post-Dispatch reporting for those that don't have a BJ subscription:
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 6021b.html
A couple paragraphs from the end of the article:
Bob Clark, who heads CRG and Clayco, said in an email that “we have no knowledge” of city officials pushing for CRG to be added to the project as Nicolopulos alleged. Instead, he said, Nicolopulos and an associate had approached CRG about joining the project.
“Ricardo was not performing and was in danger of losing the deal for nonperformance,” Clark said. “Ricardo told us he needed to restore his credibility and that a partnership with us or another reputable firm like us could help him ... restore faith” with the city. After CRG joined the project team, Clark said, “we found Ricardo’s partners acting in good faith and having the same issues of unreliability as all the other parties including us experienced.”
He said also that Nicolopulos did not understand how historic tax credits and brownfield remediation tax credits worked and “could not provide the financial credibility to complete that rigorous process.” The tax credits were part of the financing plan.
Sounds like Nicolopulos may have gotten in over his head a bit...
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 6021b.html
A couple paragraphs from the end of the article:
Bob Clark, who heads CRG and Clayco, said in an email that “we have no knowledge” of city officials pushing for CRG to be added to the project as Nicolopulos alleged. Instead, he said, Nicolopulos and an associate had approached CRG about joining the project.
“Ricardo was not performing and was in danger of losing the deal for nonperformance,” Clark said. “Ricardo told us he needed to restore his credibility and that a partnership with us or another reputable firm like us could help him ... restore faith” with the city. After CRG joined the project team, Clark said, “we found Ricardo’s partners acting in good faith and having the same issues of unreliability as all the other parties including us experienced.”
He said also that Nicolopulos did not understand how historic tax credits and brownfield remediation tax credits worked and “could not provide the financial credibility to complete that rigorous process.” The tax credits were part of the financing plan.
Sounds like Nicolopulos may have gotten in over his head a bit...
^ I am not really sure what to believe.
I also think this is weird.
Asked what would happen now to the site — a long-vacant aircraft manufacturing complex — she said it has great value but that ’’we haven’t decided what to do at this point.”
If it has been vacant 2 decades? maybe more? how much value does it really have?
I also think this is weird.
Asked what would happen now to the site — a long-vacant aircraft manufacturing complex — she said it has great value but that ’’we haven’t decided what to do at this point.”
If it has been vacant 2 decades? maybe more? how much value does it really have?
The Nicolopulos guy comes across as a bit amateurish, but the airport's silence on this issue reeks of political pressure to abandon the deal, potentially tied to the privatization process.
To be fair to them you aren't going to say much if you are being sued.kipfilet wrote:The Nicolopulos guy comes across as a bit amateurish, but the airport's silence on this issue reeks of political pressure to abandon the deal, potentially tied to the privatization process.
Hope all the legalities don't bury the idea of redeveloping the old MD manufacturing site for years to come. Prime spot, lot of space and an industrial/warehouse market that has expanded and low vacancy that Lambert needs to find a way to benefit from now.
The one thing that maybe someone can help me understand. Is Lambert's application to be a port of entry status with Mexico or vice versa still alive or was wrapped into this proposal? Port of Entry on track? I assume that it is completely separate as a port of entry is between the two countries and their respective customs agencies. I would assume that this is really the prize that Lambert needs first and foremost.
The one thing that maybe someone can help me understand. Is Lambert's application to be a port of entry status with Mexico or vice versa still alive or was wrapped into this proposal? Port of Entry on track? I assume that it is completely separate as a port of entry is between the two countries and their respective customs agencies. I would assume that this is really the prize that Lambert needs first and foremost.
Fair enough...jshank83 wrote:To be fair to them you aren't going to say much if you are being sued.kipfilet wrote:The Nicolopulos guy comes across as a bit amateurish, but the airport's silence on this issue reeks of political pressure to abandon the deal, potentially tied to the privatization process.
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From the BBC Thomas Cook collapses
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49791249 ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=twitter&ocid=socialflow_twitter
Thomas Cook collapses as rescue talks fail![]()
Thomas Cook has collapsed after last-minute negotiations aimed at saving the holiday firm failed.
The UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) said the tour operator has "ceased trading with immediate effect".
The tour operator's failure puts 22,000 jobs at risk worldwide, including 9,000 in the UK.
It has also triggered the biggest ever peacetime repatriation aimed at bringing British holidaymakers home.
The emergency operation codenamed Operation Matterhorn will aim to bring home around 150,000 British people currently on holiday with the firm.
On Sunday, empty aircraft had already started to be flown overseas, ready to bring British tourists home on Monday.
Thomas Cook had secured a £900m rescue deal led by its largest shareholder Chinese firm Fosun in August, but a recent demand from its lending banks to raise a further £200m in contingency funding had put the deal in doubt.
The holiday company had spent all Sunday in talks with lenders trying to secure the additional funding and salvage the deal, but to no avail.
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Media captionForeign Secretary Dominic Raab said that people "will not be stranded" if Thomas Cook collapsed
It had also asked the government for financial aid, a solution also urged by Labour and union groups.
But on Sunday Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab told the BBC the government did not "systematically step in" when businesses went under unless there was "a good strategic national interest"
Customers on a package holiday have Atol protection - a fund paid for through industry levies - which will cover the cost of their holiday and repatriation.
Thomas Cook has blamed a series of issues for its problems including political unrest in holiday destinations such as Turkey, last summer's prolonged heatwave and customers delaying booking holidays because of Brexit.
But the firm has also faced fierce competition from online travel agents and low-cost airlines.
In addition, many holidaymakers are putting together their own holidays and not using travel agents.
What are your rights?
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If you are on a package holiday you are covered by the Air Travel Organiser's Licence scheme (Atol).
The scheme will pay for your accommodation abroad, although you may have to move to a different hotel or apartment.
Atol will also pay to have you brought home if the airline is no longer operating.
If you have holiday booked in the future you will also be refunded by the scheme.
If you have booked a flight-only deal you will need to apply to your travel insurance company or credit card and debit card provider to seek a refund.
When Monarch Airlines collapsed in 2017, the government organised to bring home all the stranded passengers, whether they were covered by Atol or not.
Here is more information on Atol protection and Your questions answered
Are you a Thomas Cook customer or member of staff? If you've been affected by the issues raised here, you can get in touch by emailing haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk.
Please include a contact number if you are willing to speak to a BBC journalist. You can also contact us in the following ways:
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Thomas Cook collapses as rescue talks fail
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Thomas Cook has collapsed after last-minute negotiations aimed at saving the holiday firm failed.
The UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) said the tour operator has "ceased trading with immediate effect".
The tour operator's failure puts 22,000 jobs at risk worldwide, including 9,000 in the UK.
It has also triggered the biggest ever peacetime repatriation aimed at bringing British holidaymakers home.
The emergency operation codenamed Operation Matterhorn will aim to bring home around 150,000 British people currently on holiday with the firm.
On Sunday, empty aircraft had already started to be flown overseas, ready to bring British tourists home on Monday.
Thomas Cook had secured a £900m rescue deal led by its largest shareholder Chinese firm Fosun in August, but a recent demand from its lending banks to raise a further £200m in contingency funding had put the deal in doubt.
The holiday company had spent all Sunday in talks with lenders trying to secure the additional funding and salvage the deal, but to no avail.
Media captionForeign Secretary Dominic Raab said that people "will not be stranded" if Thomas Cook collapsed
It had also asked the government for financial aid, a solution also urged by Labour and union groups.
But on Sunday Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab told the BBC the government did not "systematically step in" when businesses went under unless there was "a good strategic national interest"
Customers on a package holiday have Atol protection - a fund paid for through industry levies - which will cover the cost of their holiday and repatriation.
Thomas Cook has blamed a series of issues for its problems including political unrest in holiday destinations such as Turkey, last summer's prolonged heatwave and customers delaying booking holidays because of Brexit.
But the firm has also faced fierce competition from online travel agents and low-cost airlines.
In addition, many holidaymakers are putting together their own holidays and not using travel agents.
What are your rights?
ImIf you are on a package holiday you are covered by the Air Travel Organiser's Licence scheme (Atol).
The scheme will pay for your accommodation abroad, although you may have to move to a different hotel or apartment.
Atol will also pay to have you brought home if the airline is no longer operating.
If you have holiday booked in the future you will also be refunded by the scheme.
If you have booked a flight-only deal you will need to apply to your travel insurance company or credit card and debit card provider to seek a refund.
When Monarch Airlines collapsed in 2017, the government organised to bring home all the stranded passengers, whether they were covered by Atol or not.
Here is more information on Atol protection and Your questions answered
Are you a Thomas Cook customer or member of staff? If you've been affected by the issues raised here, you can get in touch by emailing haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk.
Please include a contact number if you are willing to speak to a BBC journalist. You can also contact us in the following ways:
- WhatsApp: +44 7756 165803
- Send pictures/video to yourpics@bbc.co.uk
- Upload your pictures / video here
- Tweet: @BBC_HaveYourSay
- Text an SMS or MMS to 61124 (UK) or +44 7624 800 100 (international)
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They didn't have any direct flights into STL though, right? Not sure if we'll see any special charters come through STL because of this...
They did not have any direct flights to STL, but they are Condor's parent company. Condor was one of our potential operators to Europe.chaifetz10 wrote:They didn't have any direct flights into STL though, right? Not sure if we'll see any special charters come through STL because of this...
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Condor has requested a loan from the German government so that it can continue operations
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Condor loan updates from Deutsche Welle 9/25/19
Germany: Condor to keep flying thanks to government loan
As a subsidiary of Thomas Cook, the German airline's future has been in doubt. The firm is now working to ensure its insolvent British parent company cannot make any financial demands.
The immediate future of Condor, the German airline and subsidiary of the now insolvent Thomas Cook travel agency, was secured on Tuesday following the state's assurances of a €380 million ($420 million) loan.
The bridging loan from the German government and the state of Hesse, where the firm is based, was confirmed by the airline.
"This step, under the current situation, is the best for our clients, our business partners and for us. This way, we can be fully independent from the Thomas Cook Group plc and gain more security for our future," a Condor statement read.
The European Commission must now approve the loan before the money can be transferred. German Economy Minister Peter Altmaier also confirmed that the government had approved the deal and that Berlin was in talks with Brussels over the Commission's ratification. The finance minister of Hesse, Thomas Schaefer, said that his state could carry 50% of the loan and the central government would fund the other half.
Hesse State Premier Volker Bouffier cited Brexit as he lamented the demise of Condor's parent company. "Condor is a profitable company from Hesse that became a victim of its British parent company and of Brexit. We and the federal government believe that a new owner can keep Condor in the air for the long term."
"We believe that this company from Hesse has a future and that it will continue to bring many holidaymakers to their destinations. But this support means that work has just begun for Condor. Now, the company has to start over without Thomas Cook." Condor CEO Ralf Teckentrup said the airline was already in talks with potential buyers. The company also said that it planned to file a request to separate its business from Thomas Cook in a procedure that is specific to German insolvency law. This would exempt Condor from any potential demands by its parent company.
"The 4,900 employees, as well as partners and clients of Condor, thank the German government and the state government of Hesse for their commitment," Teckentrup said. "Seeing as our liquidity was used up by our insolvent parent company in a seasonally weaker bookings period, we need this bridging funding for the winter. This commitment is an important step to securing our future."
Germany: Condor to keep flying thanks to government loan
As a subsidiary of Thomas Cook, the German airline's future has been in doubt. The firm is now working to ensure its insolvent British parent company cannot make any financial demands.
The immediate future of Condor, the German airline and subsidiary of the now insolvent Thomas Cook travel agency, was secured on Tuesday following the state's assurances of a €380 million ($420 million) loan.
The bridging loan from the German government and the state of Hesse, where the firm is based, was confirmed by the airline.
"This step, under the current situation, is the best for our clients, our business partners and for us. This way, we can be fully independent from the Thomas Cook Group plc and gain more security for our future," a Condor statement read.
The European Commission must now approve the loan before the money can be transferred. German Economy Minister Peter Altmaier also confirmed that the government had approved the deal and that Berlin was in talks with Brussels over the Commission's ratification. The finance minister of Hesse, Thomas Schaefer, said that his state could carry 50% of the loan and the central government would fund the other half.
Hesse State Premier Volker Bouffier cited Brexit as he lamented the demise of Condor's parent company. "Condor is a profitable company from Hesse that became a victim of its British parent company and of Brexit. We and the federal government believe that a new owner can keep Condor in the air for the long term."
"We believe that this company from Hesse has a future and that it will continue to bring many holidaymakers to their destinations. But this support means that work has just begun for Condor. Now, the company has to start over without Thomas Cook." Condor CEO Ralf Teckentrup said the airline was already in talks with potential buyers. The company also said that it planned to file a request to separate its business from Thomas Cook in a procedure that is specific to German insolvency law. This would exempt Condor from any potential demands by its parent company.
"The 4,900 employees, as well as partners and clients of Condor, thank the German government and the state government of Hesse for their commitment," Teckentrup said. "Seeing as our liquidity was used up by our insolvent parent company in a seasonally weaker bookings period, we need this bridging funding for the winter. This commitment is an important step to securing our future."
October Frequency Spreadsheet
A few notes:
DL goes all mainline on ATL/DTW/MSP/SLC. Upgrades the CVG RJ200 frequency to a 900. Starts a mainline to LGA on Mondays only.
Southwest has a fair amount of different frequencies on inbound and outbound flights to stations. What I list is only outbound.
Salt Lake City on Southwest starts Oct 2.
Flights YOY change (% YOY change)
Southwest 794 +22 (+2.8%)
AA 273 +5 (+1.9)
DL 194 -2 (-0.01%)
UA 188 Flat
Frontier 30 -1 (-3.2%)
Air Canada 28 +9 (+47%)
Alaska 20 Flat
Allegiant 14 -2 (-12.5%)
Sun Country 4 +2 (+100%)
Total STL 1696 +11 (+0.01%)
Legacy seat count YOY change
DL +3.87
AA +3.54
UA -5.63%
Overall seat count on all flights in October is up 3.8% (unless something changed in the last month)
A few notes:
DL goes all mainline on ATL/DTW/MSP/SLC. Upgrades the CVG RJ200 frequency to a 900. Starts a mainline to LGA on Mondays only.
Southwest has a fair amount of different frequencies on inbound and outbound flights to stations. What I list is only outbound.
Salt Lake City on Southwest starts Oct 2.
Flights YOY change (% YOY change)
Southwest 794 +22 (+2.8%)
AA 273 +5 (+1.9)
DL 194 -2 (-0.01%)
UA 188 Flat
Frontier 30 -1 (-3.2%)
Air Canada 28 +9 (+47%)
Alaska 20 Flat
Allegiant 14 -2 (-12.5%)
Sun Country 4 +2 (+100%)
Total STL 1696 +11 (+0.01%)
Legacy seat count YOY change
DL +3.87
AA +3.54
UA -5.63%
Overall seat count on all flights in October is up 3.8% (unless something changed in the last month)
Do you know what accounted for the somewhat significant decrease in UA seat count?
If you go down in spreadsheet then over I have seat counts for last year and this year so you can compare.wabash wrote:Do you know what accounted for the somewhat significant decrease in UA seat count?
SFO was a big one. Went from a 737 and a 175 to just a 175. That changes next month. Houston was also down. Chicago was up as much as Houston was down though. SFO was really the big one. 67% decrease.