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PostOct 21, 2019#5651

^ I like it.

In other news Lambert is beginning a much needed reconfiguration of the departures level for Terminal 2 to double the amount of parking spaces for pick-ups and drop-offs.  Going from 19 spaces currently to about 40 total after this.  Also, the extended turn lanes from Lambert Int'l Blvd into T2 should be done by the end of this week.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... s_headline

I quite like the diagonal setup of the spaces now...but they desperately need more space for pick-ups and drop-offs up there.

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PostOct 22, 2019#5652

^Wow. I just went through there twice in the last week and didn't even notice there was construction going on apart from a lane closure on the south side of the main drag. Sure, I used terminal 1, but I swear, I look! They're doing a good job of keeping things flowing through while they reconfigure. :)

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PostOct 22, 2019#5653

Krewson unloads on Page and Elhmann, good for the Mayor 

the money quote "Isn't that interesting that St. Charles County and St. Louis County would all of a sudden take a regional approach," Krewson said. "Think about St. Charles over the years. They've refused to be regional partners on MetroLink, the convention center, the Zoo-Museum District, Enterprise Center, football. They and St. Louis County didn't want anything to do with MLS. ... This comes on the heels of (St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar) thinking he should take over the city police department. The county thinks they should take over Bi-State... All of a sudden we've got the discussion going on about leasing the operations of the airport, with the possibility that we will get a better airport and maybe millions or billions of dollars in revenue, and now they want to talk about a regional partnership for an asset that the city has owned for 99 years now."

St. Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson said Tuesday that St. Charles and St. Louis counties should have warned the city before taking steps to study whether St. Louis Lambert International Airport, long owned by the city and targeted for privatization, should fall under regional control.
"I do think the fact that we had no heads up on this, not even a courtesy call — 'Hey, we're going to study your airport' — is not exactly in the spirit of cooperation and regionalism," Krewson said in an interview. "It's not very neighborly."
St. Charles County Executive Steve Ehlmann wrote in a Business Journal op-ed last week that the decision to privatize Lambert's operations — a "regionally important decision" — would be made by the board of aldermen of a city that contains only 12% of the region’s citizens. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch then reported that the St. Louis County Port Authority, in a move supported by St. Louis County Executive Sam Page and Ehlmann, could hire a contractor to study regional governance of the airport.
"Isn't that interesting that St. Charles County and St. Louis County would all of a sudden take a regional approach," Krewson said. "Think about St. Charles over the years. They've refused to be regional partners on MetroLink, the convention center, the Zoo-Museum District, Enterprise Center, football. They and St. Louis County didn't want anything to do with MLS. ... This comes on the heels of (St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar) thinking he should take over the city police department. The county thinks they should take over Bi-State... All of a sudden we've got the discussion going on about leasing the operations of the airport, with the possibility that we will get a better airport and maybe millions or billions of dollars in revenue, and now they want to talk about a regional partnership for an asset that the city has owned for 99 years now."

But Krewson also said she would be open to learning from any study done by the county. "If they're spending their money, I'm not opposed to whatever might come out of that," she said. "I'm all about gathering information here."
Page spokesman Doug Moore said conversations about regional governance of Lambert have gone on for nearly half of the Airport Authority's existence. The city created it in 1968.
"Since the 1980s, St. Louis County has been represented on the Airport Commission," Moore said in a statement. "By 1997, there was an open conversation about whether Lambert Airport should be regionally governed. Since then, this sustained conversation about regional governance has taken many forms including state legislation, a report from the Senate Interim Committee on Regional Control of Lambert-St. Louis International Airport, a study by UMSL's Public Policy Research Center, and numerous studies by business organizations and interested residents."
"Now the Port Authority, which is appointed by the County Council, may fund a new evaluation of regional governance," Moore said. "The Port Authority's efforts could be an important next step in this ongoing public dialogue."
Ehlmann said in a statement Tuesday that although St Charles and St. Louis counties may want regional governance, “we are political subdivisions of the state, too.”
"The legislature will have to change the statute,” he said.
Addressing the privatization process, which took a big step forward this month when the city issued a request for qualifications to firms interested in bidding, Krewson said the city should be "thinking big."
"If we really wanted to be competitive, we ought to be thinking about a new terminal," Krewson said.
She also listed possible uses for any revenue the city would get from a lease: paying employees competitively, addressing vacancies, repairing bridges, improving parks and creating "human programs and assets on the prevention side of curing violence."

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PostOct 22, 2019#5654

^ Just finished reading that myself.  Love the digs at St. Charles County and their utter refusal to participate in anything related to St. Louis City or even County.  Now that there could be some cold hard cash on the table they want a piece of the action.  Pathetic.

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PostOct 22, 2019#5655

Krewson is Cinderella, and both her "sisters", Ehlmann and Page, are trying to jam their feet into the glass slipper called Lambert International Airport. 

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PostOct 22, 2019#5656

Quincy officially getting service to STL again on Cape Air after 2 years of leaving.

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PostOct 23, 2019#5657

I really feel like I should find a way to say something about the airport after having just gone through Heathdump. (My new least favorite airport anywhere, just for the record. And yes, I've been through LaGuardia.) But really, my feeling was mostly "it's good to be home." I will say the food at Lambert is still fine. Ate at the Mike Shannon's in A. It holds up fine to any airport food I've had anywhere else, and it's better than most. And the place is clean and the HVAC works. (Which is darn nice, by the way. This is absolutely not always true. The number of famous but stuffy and smelly terminals I've been through just keeps going up.)

Anyway . . . FlySTL! :) Will have to find a place to post travel pics.

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PostOct 23, 2019#5658

Good of Krewson to show some backbone like that - about time someone took St. Charles and the County down a peg.

Interesting comments about 'thinking big' like a new terminal. Hopefully they'll be reviving the midfield terminal plans if that's the case (though I'm not sure why any private operator would want to sink that kind of money into STL, especially right off the bat).

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PostOct 24, 2019#5659

symphonicpoet wrote:
Oct 23, 2019
I really feel like I should find a way to say something about the airport after having just gone through Heathdump. (My new least favorite airport anywhere, just for the record. And yes, I've been through LaGuardia.) But really, my feeling was mostly "it's good to be home." I will say the food at Lambert is still fine. Ate at the Mike Shannon's in A. It holds up fine to any airport food I've had anywhere else, and it's better than most. And the place is clean and the HVAC works. (Which is darn nice, by the way. This is absolutely not always true. The number of famous but stuffy and smelly terminals I've been through just keeps going up.)

Anyway . . . FlySTL! :) Will have to find a place to post travel pics.
Post a trip report on a.net if you are able to

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PostOct 24, 2019#5660

^That's not a bad idea. :) I've been slowly putting one together on Twitter, one tweet at a time starting September 16, and of course Facebook and Flickr. But a consistent trip report might be fun, and airliners.net would be a good place for it. Or netairspace.

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PostOct 29, 2019#5661

Did anyone manage to snap some pics of the 747 that landed last night?

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PostOct 30, 2019#5662

kipfilet wrote:Did anyone manage to snap some pics of the 747 that landed last night?
Is it still at the airport? The flightaware hasn't updated with a departure.

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PostOct 31, 2019#5663

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kipfilet wrote:Did anyone manage to snap some pics of the 747 that landed last night?
Is it still at the airport? The flightaware hasn't updated with a departure.

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Yes it left early Tuesday morning.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KSTL/OERK

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PostOct 31, 2019#5664

Wonder what is filling a 747-400 flying from STL to Saudi Arabia...  Why is Atlas suddenly flying heavies from STL?

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PostOct 31, 2019#5665

Cool. Did anyone get photos?

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PostOct 31, 2019#5666

STLinCHI wrote:
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Wonder what is filling a 747-400 flying from STL to Saudi Arabia...  Why is Atlas suddenly flying heavies from STL?
WWE had an event here on Monday then in Saudi Arabia tomorrow. It was a passenger 747 flying people for the event.

PostOct 31, 2019#5667

Southwest released their April/May schedule today
I went thru it for April 2020.

YoY Changes from April 2019

+2
Sun Dallas/For Myers/Tampa

+1
Mon-Fri BOS/CLE/DEN/Detriot/Nashville/LGA/PIT/Salt Lake City/Tampa
Sat Charleston/Milwaukee/Orland/TPA/Panama City
Sun ATL/BOS/HOU/New Orleans/LGA/Orlando/Salt Lake City/San Antonio

-1
Mon-Fri Columbus
Sat Minny
Sun CLE/San Diego 

Also Newark 2 daily is gone since Southwest is leaving it next week.

Flights per day
Mon-Fri 125 +6
Saturday 89 +2
Sunday 135 +10

Total flights 849 +42 (5.2%) - This gain is off the Pre Max grounding schedule for April 2019 so the actual percentage will probably be higher. 

135 on Sundays will be the most flights on any day ever by Southwest. 
849 a week is also the most ever scheduled just beating out March 2020

PostOct 31, 2019#5668

September numbers are out.

Up 3.6% on the month
Up 2.3% on the year

Cargo up 9.2% on the month now with Amazon added. Should be up even more for the following months with the 2nd flight that started in October

https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... PubRel.pdf

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PostNov 02, 2019#5669

18 RFQ submittals today, a lot of public pensions on the list from Canada to even Missouri’s. Australia well represented
2 different Ontario pension systems, each submitting individually


-AENA Internacional
-AMP Capital
-Atlantia
-Corporación América Airports (CAAP)
-daa International
-Global Infrastructure Partners
-GRID Realty
-IFM Investors and MAG Overseas Investments Limited, on behalf of Manchester Airports Group
-Lambert Gateway Partners (a consortium including Blackstone Infrastructure Partners, Groupe ADP, the Hall of Fame Group, The Bridgeman Hospitality Group, Cleveland Avenue and the Public School and Education Employee Retirement Systems of Missouri)
Momentum Aviation Partners (a consortium including Partners Group (USA), ASUR and AECOM Hunt)
-Morrison & Co.
-Odinsa (Grupo Argos)
-Ontario Muni Employee’s pension system Infrastructure and Fraport
-Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan Board, Ontario -Airports Investments Limited and Copenhagen Airports International
-Public Sector Pension Investment Board (PSPIB) and AviAlliance
-Royal Schiphol Group
-STL Aviation Group (a consortium including Oaktree Transportation Investment Fund, JLC Infrastructure / MJE-Loop Capital Partners, Ullico and Vinci Airports / TBI Airport Management
-Vantage Airport Group and Corsair-Vantage Investment Partners

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PostNov 02, 2019#5670

dbInSouthCity wrote:
Nov 02, 2019
18 RFQ submittals today, a lot of public pensions on the list from Canada to even Missouri’s. Australia well represented
2 different Ontario pension systems, each submitting individually


-AENA Internacional
-AMP Capital
-Atlantia
-Corporación América Airports (CAAP)
-daa International
-Global Infrastructure Partners
-GRID Realty
-IFM Investors and MAG Overseas Investments Limited, on behalf of Manchester Airports Group
-Lambert Gateway Partners (a consortium including Blackstone Infrastructure Partners, Groupe ADP, the Hall of Fame Group, The Bridgeman Hospitality Group, Cleveland Avenue and the Public School and Education Employee Retirement Systems of Missouri)
Momentum Aviation Partners (a consortium including Partners Group (USA), ASUR and AECOM Hunt)
-Morrison & Co.
-Odinsa (Grupo Argos)
-Ontario Muni Employee’s pension system Infrastructure and Fraport
-Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan Board, Ontario -Airports Investments Limited and Copenhagen Airports International
-Public Sector Pension Investment Board (PSPIB) and AviAlliance
-Royal Schiphol Group
-STL Aviation Group (a consortium including Oaktree Transportation Investment Fund, JLC Infrastructure / MJE-Loop Capital Partners, Ullico and Vinci Airports / TBI Airport Management
-Vantage Airport Group and Corsair-Vantage Investment Partners
Do any of these run other airports? Just curious on experience and track record.

Was one of these the Denver debacle one?

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PostNov 02, 2019#5671

Denver one did not submit a RFQ

A lot of those do, ie Royal Schiphol Group owns and operates Amsterdam’s airport (Schiphol), Rotterdam airport and they own and operate terminal 4 at JFK in NYC.

Amsterdam Schiphol has 71m annual passengers, 3rd busiest in Europe after Heathrow and Charles de Gaulle Airport

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PostNov 02, 2019#5672

^ I think Ferrovial was involved with Denver.  I saw on Reddit that they (Ferrovial) were the ones who hired Slay as a lobbyist.  Odd that they are sitting this one out.

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PostNov 02, 2019#5673

AENA Internacional Operates London’s Luton and a few in South America


Manchester Airports Group Owns and operates the Manchester airport (20m passengers) London’s stansted (18m) and a 5m Passenger airport

Some are strange, like Atlantia, which operates highways in Italy

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PostNov 02, 2019#5674

I was googling a number of these companies on the list. If they (I.e. Royal Schiphol) can connect STL to some international connections and more cargo....

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PostNov 02, 2019#5675

I’d be surprised if they didn’t make the RFP round.

“Royal Schiphol Group is an airport company with an important socio-economic task. Airports in the group create value for society and for the economy. Royal Schiphol Group is the owner and operator of Amsterdam Airport Schiphol, Rotterdam The Hague Airport and Lelystad Airport, and holds a majority stake in Eindhoven Airport. Our airports ensure optimum links for the Netherlands with the rest of the world and contribute to prosperity and well-being – in the Netherlands and beyond.

Europe’s Preferred Airport

Our long-term ambition is to develop Schiphol into Europe’s Preferred Airport, the airport of choice for passengers, airlines and logistics service providers. Our strategy comprises five key themes: Top Connectivity, Excellent Visit Value, Competitive Marketplace, Development of the Group and Sustainable & Safe Performance.”

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