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7:17 PM - May 13

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2:20 PM - Feb 18

jshank83 wrote: ↑

1:36 PM - Feb 17

Last I heard was April-ish. That was in December. So not sure if anything changed since then

Ah.  Last I read on here was February.  Bummer.

Any updates on timeline?

From what I have gathered we will likely see something next month.

I also am under the impression some of the rumors from a few months back that had me and others thinking this could be disappointing were misinterpreted. But I want to see the renderings before I know for sure.

dweebe wrote: ↑

2:48 PM - May 12

Dulles is looking to get rid of the people movers: but at a scary price tag.



Lambert remodel: $3 billion (est)
Ohare: Started at $8 billion and is at $11 billion now with warnings it could soon see $12 billion to $13 billion budget
Dulles: $22 billion
LAX: $30 billion

Interesting that the slides now show a "United regional concourse" on the site of the current Concourse C/D, when the Master Plan approved last year did not show any replacement concourse there. C/D was built as a "temporary" solution in 1983 and is infamously cramped. The eastern portion of the new Concourse C is already under construction and is supposed to open later this year or early next year.

Was this just money STL was going to get anyway?

addxb2 wrote: ↑

1:36 AM - May 17

Was this just money STL was going to get anyway?

I figure some politician has to help push it through or it would go elsewhere. Might not have been a huge lift but I’m fine with them taking some credit.

I guess he really isn’t taking any credit in that post though. Just “announcing”

just to have a look Tampa: https://www.tampaairport.com/business/airside-d

^Reminds me of a mini JFK or LAX. That sort of thing could work reasonably well as an international gateway, but I'm not sure it's the model I'd pick for us, since a lot of things will be relatively dispersed and distant from one another. Seems like everybody O&D has to clear security in the central "landside" facility and then take one of four people movers to an "airside" pod. Functionally, I think it would be very much like what we've got now, where everything is physically isolated from everything else, though at least it seems like you could stay airside if you needed to move from A to C for some reason. It's pretty enough I guess? But I think what we'll get will honestly be better. You'll have easier access to everything, since it will all be connected in one, simple, linear concourse with a single entry, and likely a central area with some decent food and views. A lot will depend on how HOK works out the particulars, but they know their business, so I have some confidence there.

Frankfurt – St. Louis eff 01JAN27 A340-300 replaces A330-300, 3 weekly

^Really? Hope that holds up. Neat to see. I might have to restart my JetTips subscription. Or at least pay attention again. Thanks for the heads up!

jshank83 wrote:Frankfurt – St. Louis eff 01JAN27 A340-300 replaces A330-300, 3 weekly

Their A340s are in rough shape. Have flown them three times in the last year or two.

jshank83 wrote: ↑

10:50 PM - May 20

Frankfurt – St. Louis eff 01JAN27 A340-300 replaces A330-300, 3 weekly

Would be nice to have a 4-engine heavy in our midst.  Wonder when the last regularly scheduled service with such equipment was?  TWA 747's? 

matguy70 wrote: ↑

3:18 PM - May 25

So the a340-300 is 3x weekly are 3 days of their 5 days service. The 340 is larger and more spacious IMO. They are using it on these routes:
Boston Logan International Airport (BOS)
Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD)
Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport (DFW)
Denver International Airport (DEN)
Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport (DTW)
New York John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK)
Saint Louis International Airport (STL)
Seattle–Tacoma International Airport (SEA)
Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD)

The flight only runs 3x a week in winter. So that’s why it says 3 daily

Any ideas or hints of lounges at the new airport/terminal?


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Wingtips is embarrassing, so the bar is so low you can role over it.

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

10:22 PM - May 29

Wingtips is embarrassing, so the bar is so low you can role over it.

I'd never pay for it but I appreciate it. That said, I agree its about as low as you can get. 

^Three might be  pretty good. Delta, AA, and something Southwest folks can use would probably be more than enough. The most we've ever had was two, so far as I can tell. Even back in TWA hub days. (Granted it looks like TWA used more space where the current Admiral's club lounge is. But I can't believe there's as much demand now as there used to be anyway. Probably not a lot of need for showers or airside conference rooms there anymore.)

I'm probably one of those odd business travelers who really don't see what all the fuss is about with lounges.  I rather spend less time at airports instead of more.   I give myself enough time to get through TSA pre check, grab a coffee and use the restroom and lets board baby and get this bird in the sky. 

Same here but only if I have a long connection do I find it useful. I have a friend who shows up early for flights, goes to a lounge to make sure he gets something to eat but he can't cook.

dredger wrote: ↑

1:58 PM - May 30

I'm probably one of those odd business travelers who really don't see what all the fuss is about with lounges.  I rather spend less time at airports instead of more.   I give myself enough time to get through TSA pre check, grab a coffee and use the restroom and lets board baby and get this bird in the sky. 

I'm usually in the same boat but I seem to take a lot of longer flights 3+ hours and a lot of times it is over a meal so I appreciate being able to grab "free" food before I jump on a plane so I don't have to buy it. 

I also travel with my small kids a fair amount so when that is the case we get to the airport earlier than just I would. So we usually have a bit more time to kill and they appreciate the food also. I appreciate a drink in that case. 

But as duckman says usually I only use them on layovers or non home airports where I don't know how long everything will take so I show up earlier and have more time. 

dredger wrote: ↑

1:58 PM - May 30

I'm probably one of those odd business travelers who really don't see what all the fuss is about with lounges.  I rather spend less time at airports instead of more.   I give myself enough time to get through TSA pre check, grab a coffee and use the restroom and lets board baby and get this bird in the sky. 

It’s not about the home airport. It’s when I’m stuck in Denver or Chicago for 3 hours.

In my experience, Vino Volo is kind of the de facto sky club in STL.

Edit: which is to say, there’s demand.

I confess, I use them a lot more at other airports, but my most frequent destination is Ho Chi Minh City, so I take a lot of long flights, have a lot of awkward length layovers, and need more time to show documents and check bags. Also, my wife likes to get to the airport early. She's a classic gate louse. We've always got assigned seats, and we're in an early enough boarding group that overhead bin space is just never going to be an issue, even if we board a bit late, but she wants to be standing there twenty minutes before they even open the door, and I've pretty much just caved in to the inevitable on that count.  On the other hand, we have the lounge access now, so we might as well use it and eat the airline's food and relax for those two and a half extra hours. (Well, two given the gate louse tendencies.)

I do travel differently when I'm traveling solo, but it's not like I particularly mind being at airports anyway. They don't sing to me quite the way railroad stations do, but it's close enough.