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PostMay 01, 2010#601

^ Sure. I was told that there may be enough room to add a language at the Papin location, but maybe not, and definitely not two languages. As they add, they will open new locations.

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PostMay 01, 2010#602

DaronDierkes wrote:there has been a fair amount of buzz around the SLLIS opening up their third language as Chinese. I've got a few friends that want to put their pre-schoolers in it if they can. I'm just not sure if it should be in the Grove.

The way I see it, the closest thing to a chinatown we have is along olive in the middle of the triangle formed by UMSL/airport, WashU, and Clayton's downtown. UMSL and Wash U have a joint East Asian studies program, and our sister cities project is in the world trade center in Clayton. The Danforth Center is also on Olive, and so it's interesting to see Chinese biotech firms interested in the research park there.

I think the UCity library should expand their chinese section, perhaps with an East Asian Library on Olive. Any Chinese School ought to consider placing itself near Olive as well. Someday, when the Loop Trolley is in place (ha) we might consider a streetcar from the Wash U circle north on Skinker to Olive and off along asia street towards the Danforth Center. That's assuming olive stays packed with asian restaurant and shops.
Well, since SLIIS is a charter school, it's not going to be where you'd like. It's going to be in the city limits.

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PostMay 01, 2010#603

Of course, and I've got nothing against the Grove. If we're changing or enhancing the cultural make up of a place though, I think that stretch of Olive is a good place to think about.

Are all expansions of the SLLIS going to be at the same facility? Just a lot of kids speaking different langauges using the same playground and the same cafeteria?

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PostMay 01, 2010#604

DaronDierkes wrote:Of course, and I've got nothing against the Grove. If we're changing or enhancing the cultural make up of a place though, I think that stretch of Olive is a good place to think about.

Are all expansions of the SLLIS going to be at the same facility? Just a lot of kids speaking different langauges using the same playground and the same cafeteria?
Just wondering if you read the last couple comments? The stretch of Olive is good, but it's not in the city and no, all expansions of SLLIS will not be at the same facility.

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PostMay 01, 2010#605

right, sorry. I was doing a few things at once. I wrote a lot that I deleted, and I didn't see replies until after I posted. Olive isn't in the city, but it goes as far as Skinker at which point it becomes the West End Neighborhood and the city part of the Loop. The stretch between Heman Park and Skinker isn't very Asian, but a Chinese school somewhere in the West End makes as much sense as any other neighborhood.

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PostMay 09, 2010#606

who knows, maybe the next Rush Hour movie will be located in the Lou

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PostMay 12, 2010#607

LOL, I can picture it now. Carter stuck hanging from an elevator cable dangling from the Arch. Jackie Chan at the bottom, figuring out a way to climb up there, before the bad guys can release the cable.

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PostMay 12, 2010#608

kickazzz2000 wrote:LOL, I can picture it now. Carter stuck hanging from an elevator cable dangling from the Arch. Jackie Chan at the bottom, figuring out a way to climb up there, before the bad guys can release the cable.

Someone get in touch with a script writer

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PostMay 12, 2010#609

Let's focus back onto newsworthy info on the hub. Thanks.

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PostJun 02, 2010#610

i don't mean to meaninglessly dig up an old thread, but this seams to have been forgotten despite being one of (if not THE) projects that most influences the future of our city. has anyone heard/read/seen anything about it recently? I've been all over google looking for news, but haven't found anything. I hope it's not just a bit of bad news that no one wants to report...

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PostJun 02, 2010#611

So Alex guest posted on the Urbanophile a profile for St. Louis and the commentors went berserk on the China Hub issue. Alon of New York seemed to think this was a way for St. Louis to sell itself out and be colonized. Do you guys think Chinese businesses will come in and control us?

Does St. Louis have a Chinese Chamber of Commerce?

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PostJun 02, 2010#612

Someguy wrote:i don't mean to meaninglessly dig up an old thread, but this seams to have been forgotten despite being one of (if not THE) projects that most influences the future of our city. has anyone heard/read/seen anything about it recently? I've been all over google looking for news, but haven't found anything. I hope it's not just a bit of bad news that no one wants to report...
Latest articles posted in this thread are barely a month old. Is that not recent enough for you?

PostJun 02, 2010#613

DaronDierkes wrote:So Alex guest posted on the Urbanophile a profile for St. Louis and the commentors went berserk on the China Hub issue. Alon of New York seemed to think this was a way for St. Louis to sell itself out and be colonized. Do you guys think Chinese businesses will come in and control us?

Does St. Louis have a Chinese Chamber of Commerce?

The folks commenting went berserk because they are completely and utterly clueless of the goings on in StL.

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PostJun 02, 2010#614

Someguy wrote:i don't mean to meaninglessly dig up an old thread, but this seams to have been forgotten despite being one of (if not THE) projects that most influences the future of our city. has anyone heard/read/seen anything about it recently? I've been all over google looking for news, but haven't found anything. I hope it's not just a bit of bad news that no one wants to report...
Right - the sign of success isn't more press releases (see Ballpark Village), it's steady progress. There's a lot in motion on this project and a lot of money being invested by the Chinese. It's going to take some time, but there's no bad news.

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PostJun 02, 2010#615

No worries. These negotiations are part of a series of serious long-term international diplomacy as well as economic development for StL. Such diplomacy involves a very large number of non-project variables simply because it deals with our two giant nations beginning to engage in more dedicated commerce. Remember that our countries have multiple issues to discuss separate and ancillary to the China Hub concept, from escalation in the Koreas to the renmimbi being hard-pegged to the US dollar as the Euro collapses.

From what I know, studies are progressing from which the point-of-engagement discussions will be based. They should be finishing in the relative near future, and decisions will be based on them, including whether or not cargo companies will begin to make flights. I'm sure that, when there's something more to say, we'll hear it. There's lots of people working dedicatedly to this, they're just smart enough to not get their faces in the news all the time.

Patience is a virtue, even if it sometimes sucks.

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PostJun 02, 2010#616

yeah, you guys are right, sorry for bringing it up for nothing. i suppose i was just getting antsy because earlier it was being discussed nonstop. sorry for the inconvenience everyone.

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PostJun 02, 2010#617

Hey there - thank you for bringing it up. If you were wondering likely others were as well!

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PostJun 04, 2010#618

I could certainly be wrong, but wasn't the feasibility study supposed to be wrapping up around the start of the Summer?

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PostJun 04, 2010#619

Jrathert wrote:I could certainly be wrong, but wasn't the feasibility study supposed to be wrapping up around the start of the Summer?
If there's one truism in economic studies, it's that the beget more economic studies. OK, really they go in phases. There are initial feasibility studies and other steps that determine if it's worth investment more and studying more. Currently, there's an agreement with several Chinese airlines to fund more in-depth studies.

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PostJun 04, 2010#620

thanks for the support there, Alex :D

the funny thing is, just two days after i caused all that ruckus, the Post publishes this:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
affirming that the studies are still going on

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PostJun 10, 2010#621

New Article released yesterday mentions increase operations in St. Louis:

Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation
Delta on the move: New York, Africa, Asia Pacific and more
9th June, 2010
Upon completion of its merger with Northwest, Delta Air Lines became the world’s largest carrier, a position that may soon be lost by the creation of a “new” United Airlines. However, Delta is using this moment of dominance to expand in ways that are unparalleled amongst its legacy peers. Both domestically and internationally the airline is aggressively challenging its rivals and appears to be building its network in ways that will guarantee its continued market position despite increasing consolidation in the US marketplace. Upon completion of its merger with Northwest, Delta Air Lines became the world's largest airline. Delta has expanded its domestic network to include cities like St Louis.

http://www.centreforaviation.com/news/2 ... more/page1

Again, Delta might be seeing STL's China Hub as a huge thing too here.

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PostJun 10, 2010#622

Wow, we can get access to that article for just $15. What a deal.

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PostJun 10, 2010#623

Delta's always flown to St. Louis. And did they "expand" service here beyond "adding" the flights to Minneapolis and Detroit that were previously flown by Northwest?

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PostJun 10, 2010#624

Yes... in May Delta added service:
http://www.flystl.com/flystl/media-news ... -11-10.pdf

Delta now operates 34 daily flights from St. Louis to eight cities. American operates about the same.

Delta serves nonstop from STL: Atlanta, Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Salt Lake City, Cincinnati/Northern KY, and NYC Laguardia now.

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PostJun 13, 2010#625

MidAmerica officials have made their own marketing trips to Asia, raising the question of whether potential partners might be confused by the two competing groups from St. Louis.
In a high-stakes opportunity like this one, a region that can get its act together stands a better chance than a region that's forced to compete with itself.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument

They're gonna start fighting and the St. Louis area is going to lose this opportunity, aren't they? That seems to be St. Louis's specialty. Why can't these two airports just work together?

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