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PostMay 11, 2009#401

Win/win?


I am working with other St. Louis and statewide leaders on a very strong proposal to make Lambert International Airport into one terminus of such an air bridge. But, it is not the only possible local choice. Underused Mid-America Airport is another. Both locations benefit the St. Louis region.


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PostMay 13, 2009#402

so i guess its not Mike Jones the rapper either.



thanks for the info.

PostMay 13, 2009#403

all I'm saying is Mike Jones the rapper would have buttoned this up months ago ... just sayin.

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PostMay 13, 2009#404

^Mike Jones has already commissioned a $400,000 grill out of this deal.

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PostMay 13, 2009#405

markofucity wrote:all I'm saying is Mike Jones the rapper would have buttoned this up months ago ... just sayin.


Mike Jones the linebacker would have tackled anyone who stood in his way.

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PostMay 13, 2009#406

Mike Jones the rapper would have dropped rhymes all day. After all, "nothing takes the place of persistence!"

-C. Coolidge

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PostMay 13, 2009#407

DeBaliviere wrote:
markofucity wrote:all I'm saying is Mike Jones the rapper would have buttoned this up months ago ... just sayin.


Mike Jones the linebacker would have tackled anyone who stood in his way.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzToNo7A-94

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PostMay 13, 2009#408

think what we could accomplish if mike Jones the rapper AND mike jones the Linebacker joined up on this. all of shanghai would relocate to downtown overnight.



i suppose mike Jones the historian/policy analyst could help as well.

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PostMay 14, 2009#409

In considering the "Big Idea" and what it could mean for the region, here are two very good articles that provide some insight into what China's role is today and what it is becoming in the global economy. Perhaps this can provide some scale.



First article says China needs to see more revenues, that Foreign Direct Investment (non-Chinese investing in China) decreased by 21-23% Y/Y. For scale, 21% = $27.7B. This is the seventh month in which FDI has decreased for China; meanwhile, this still shows a continued flow of global investor monies into China. They're still producing, and although it may be below initial targets, they're still growing. Meanwhile, they're still investing in interests outside of their home country.

Basically, they need to export, and preferably to first world countries that can afford their goods. Namely, the US.

Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124227141344418411.html



The other article discusses China's role in the global commodities markets, focusing on copper and oil. I hope it provides a scale to the sheer size of the Chinese economic engine and their continued desires to expand.

Title: It's China's World; The Rest Of Us Just Live In It
Americans simply do not grasp the competition that is coming down the pike. We are too busy spending our 'stockpile' on bailing out the oligarchs' personal pocketbooks.
Source: http://seekingalpha.com/article/137659- ... live-in-it



What I hope to convey is that the Chinese economic engine will soon be second globally only to that of the US. To secure a position as a port of first entry for sensitive & expensive goods, and to be a gateway point between the two countries for business & negotiations, only could make StL a huge return on any investments made, whether that be in time, monies, real estate, or political capital. As we flounder, they're getting ready for the bounce-back. Let's hope we're ready to be the first to cooperatively engage them.

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PostMay 15, 2009#410

From yesterday's Dallas Morning News. I wonder how this relates to the St. Louis efforts.



D/FW Airport getting new cargo service to Shanghai





In a year when air cargo figures at Dallas/Fort Worth International have been down sharply, the airport said Thursday it’s getting a new air cargo service to Shanghai.



Yangtze River Express will launch four-times-a-week air cargo service to China starting May 22. The Boeing 747-400 freighter flights will stop at Los Angeles International Airport on their way to D/FW from Shanghai, a routing that’s not unusual with cargo haulers.



more:



http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... db6b4.html

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PostMay 15, 2009#411

^ This DFW air cargo service from Shanghai is like UPS flying there, but having their main cargo hub in Louisville or FedEx's at Memphis or Indy.



I don't think this will affect STL getting this hub, after all DFW isn't very centralized and more further south. The Yangtze River Express has to stop at LAX before proceeding to DFW.



There are already several Chinese cargo carriers utilizing DFW. This will just add another one.

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PostMay 15, 2009#412

The post put another article on this. It seems the article is confused with what the delegation from china as well as the Hub commission intend to do here in st. louis. Isn't Yangzi River Express just one company vs. a regional hub/ trade zone for multiple companies?



Also, check out some of the comments. Again, narrow minded black-and-white negative arguments of why this shouldn't go through.





http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/mound- ... mment-2430

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PostMay 16, 2009#413

10-intuition wrote:^ This DFW air cargo service from Shanghai is like UPS flying there, but having their main cargo hub in Louisville or FedEx's at Memphis or Indy.



I don't think this will affect STL getting this hub, after all DFW isn't very centralized and more further south. The Yangtze River Express has to stop at LAX before proceeding to DFW.



There are already several Chinese cargo carriers utilizing DFW. This will just add another one.


I think you are right. The Dallas flights are stopping over in LA -- not particularly direct from China.

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PostMay 23, 2009#414

Thursday, May 21, 2009, 10:40am CDT

North St. Louis McEagle plan unveiled tonight

St. Louis Business Journal - by Kelsey Volkmann



from the story:



"McKee said he hopes to capitalize on the region's efforts to establish air freight and trade partnerships with China as a way to land major companies for the development."



read entire news story:

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stor ... ily43.html

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PostMay 24, 2009#415

matguy70 wrote:Thursday, May 21, 2009, 10:40am CDT

North St. Louis McEagle plan unveiled tonight

St. Louis Business Journal - by Kelsey Volkmann



from the story:



"McKee said he hopes to capitalize on the region's efforts to establish air freight and trade partnerships with China as a way to land major companies for the development."



read entire news story:

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stor ... ily43.html


I wonder what type of developments he has in mind...



Suburban office parks? Office towers? Warehouses? Industrial parks?



I would hope that any "headquarters" relocated to stl would be downtown. But of course, let's just hope we even land this hub deal. Who knows what can happen.

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PostJun 11, 2009#416

A recent tweet from Missouri's Jr. Senator that could be related to this issue.....



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Long day: early Monrnin Joe, contracting overight hearing, meeting with Ambassador and other Chinese officials, still not done.

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PostJun 12, 2009#417

The above-referenced Twitter makes me nervous.

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PostJun 12, 2009#418

There is much to be discussed on this BIG DEAL... StL basically has no competition for this hub from other cities... If I had to guess, they are waiting for the details of the NorthSide project to get approved and then alas the hub will be announced. I think it's reasonable to expect an announcement of both before the end of the year 2011.

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PostJun 12, 2009#419

StL basically has no competition for this hub from other cities


Although I think we are in a good position I wouldn't go as far as to say we have no competition.




If I had to guess, they are waiting for the details of the NorthSide project to get approved and then alas the hub will be announced.


Why would that be?


I think it's reasonable to expect an announcement of both before the end of the year 2011.


Why then?

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PostJun 12, 2009#420

Paul McKee is spear heading both the NorthSide project as well as the Cargo hub. I find it quite astonishing that no one has brought up the point that one may be contingent on the next. We are talking about bringing in 10's of thousands of jobs to the area around the Lambert, connect the dots people.

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PostJun 12, 2009#421

McKee is not spearheading the cargo hub. The "Big Idea" is now in the hands of the Chinese government, the State of Missouri, the City of St. Louis, even the Federal Government.


I find it quite astonishing that no one has brought up the point that one may be contingent on the next.


That's because they aren't.



And how about that "end of 2011" timeline?

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PostJun 12, 2009#422

^ Dear the count,



Please venture to page 1 of this thread and read the first words of the first post. You know the one beginning with "paul Mckee" and ending with "is spearheading an effort to make St. Louis the Midwest cargo hub for Chinese airlines, according to sources close to the initiative." Then read the 2nd post of this thread.





Sincerly,



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PostJun 12, 2009#423

I followed your instructions.



The article in your post was posted 15 months ago. Things change. The hub idea is not in McKee's hands anymore. Air China is owned by the Chinese government and Lambert by the city of St. Louis. A decision by the Chinese to use Lambert has nothing to do with McKee owning land around the airport or his North Side plans, but with the ability of creating a sufficient stream of goods from and to China to make a Lambert hub viable.



This decision will be made regardless of what happens with the North Side and therefore the projects have little or no correlation.

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PostJun 12, 2009#424

C'mon count, what are you even arguing? Do you really think someone who spearheads something as large as a StL - China cargo deal is now completely hands off when said person owns North Park and is working hand and hand with city hall on the NorthSide project?



Where do you think all of the warehouses will go?



Where do you think all these new Chinese Americans will live?



My guess... the near northside.

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PostJun 12, 2009#425

Do you really think someone who spearheads something as large as a StL - China cargo deal


Don't fall in love with the word spearheading. Did you even read my post?


Where do you think all of the warehouses will go?




Initially around the perimeter of the airport. North Park will likely be part of it.


Where do you think all these new Chinese Americans will live?


What makes you think that we will be flooded by new Chinese immigrants?


My guess... the near northside.


You do guess a lot.

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