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"We are almost at capacity for our two breweries in StL at 50,000 bbls per year. We are now looking for the land that would be needed for a new production brewery in StL. In the long term, a much larger brewery could need as much as 40 or 50 acres. There are few if any craft brewers with this type of footprint in an urabn area. We very much want to avoid building a 3rd brewery and find down the road that we do not have enough land. With such a challenging search but a willingness to take on post-industrial urban land we are allowing 5 years from the start for the search to any production coming from a new brewery in StL." - Dan kopman

http://live.stltoday.com/Event/Beer_Cha ... n/59051263


Schafly should look no further than any one of the dozen or so empty lots surrounding the Tap Room. An expanded Tap Room would really be great for Downtown West.

Dont worry guys, everyone will be completely ecstatic about the location.

stlien wrote:Dont worry guys, everyone will be completely ecstatic about the location.

Are you saying you have an idea of where they are looking?

stlien wrote:Dont worry guys, everyone will be completely ecstatic about the location.

That could only mean one thing - Chesterfield Valley.

After recently going on a tour at Bottleworks, the guide said they are looking at places in North City.

And there is plenty of cheap land and warehouse stock available.

Alex Ihnen wrote:^40-50 acres that's not. In the city, it's likely Pruitt-Igoe site (though Schlafly seem too cool and reasonable to deal with McKee ), the north riverfront, wish the old foundry on FP Ave at Spring were larger...

It's hard for me to grasp what they would do with all that space. I wonder how they determined the need for 40-50 acres. Does anyone have more information for what they plan to do with all that space?

How does this compare to the breweries of New Belgium or Sam Adams? How many acres is is the ABI St. Louis Brewery?

moorlander wrote:

It's hard for me to grasp what they would do with all that space. I wonder how they determined the need for 40-50 acres. Does anyone have more information for what they plan to do with all that space?

Schlafly (or maybe people that work at Schlafly) has said that they would like to have an urban farm along with a brewery expansion. So I imagine a lot of the acreage would be for that.

ImprovSTL wrote:

stlien wrote:Dont worry guys, everyone will be completely ecstatic about the location.

Are you saying you have an idea of where they are looking?

There's only a few viable sites for them to choose in the city. We should find out more next year.

Can picture riding a bike along the north riverfront trail and coming across a Hops field or two. Lemp would be cool. But I also think that a brewery with an urban farm along the river as part of the revitalized north side industrial area would be one of the better options - talk about a green development and signature location to revitalize industry on the North side.

While I see unlimited possibilities for an urban farm, urban winery and so on at P-I site. I don't see it as a good location for industrial purpose. At end of day, a sizeable brewery has entered the realm of industry where access to freeways, rail, waterways and other industrial infrastructure (water service) matters. Instead, I would love to see Botanical Garden lead an effort to try a variety small urban farms and wineries at P-I in the immediate future. I see the cost reasonable, doable and puts the property back in productive use while not subsidizing infill structures when Industrial building stock is available in a number of other locations, such as Lemp.

Re: Lemp - the Brewer I'm hoping to go in there is Billy Busch, not Shlafly. Lemp was built to brew beer in volume, and that's Billy's goal for Kräftig; I don't think Shlafly has national aspirations just yet. Plus since Kräftig's goal is to be a direct competitor to Bud/Busch, what better way to throw down the Gauntlet so to speak than to set up shop within sight of A-B/InBev?

Now whether the Lemp complex can be renovated into a productive facility again is questionable. Maybe with enough tax credits it's doable - but it'd be a stretch. If there's one brewer with the capital and vision to do it, though, in my opinion it's Busch.

-RBB

Schlafly won't go there, as they said it'll be too expensive to rehab and modernize. Also, I thought Lemp was getting redeveloped..

Loving the old pics. Very anxious to hear more about their future plans.

HBD Schlafly!

http://schlafly.com/events/photo-galler ... afly-beer/