St. Louis Breweries

pattimagee · PostMar 03, 2016#4512016-03-03T22:22+00:00

This is a really good article on the whole AB/Goose Island relationship.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/ ... -ab-inbev-

I know AB has a very loose leash and they trust the Goose Island people... but part of me wonders if/when ever MacroBeer owns the majority of the the craft market they can start squeezing out the little guys again. Hell, they are already lobbying to squeeze out growler fills and bar space right now... it worries me...

Here's the article on it...

http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/bee ... ign=buffer

dweebe · PostMar 03, 2016#4522016-03-03T22:28+00:00

pattimagee wrote:I learned some pretty exciting info tonight while chatting with Side Project about their expansion - 2nd Shift Brewery will be opening a tasting room in Maplewood and Goose Island is also being lured to Maplewood, but will probably be opening a tasting room in Central West End this or next year.

Where in Maplewood? The old Monarch space at Manchester and Sutton?

roger wyoming II · PostMar 03, 2016#4532016-03-03T23:03+00:00

^^ thanks pattimagee; exactly what I was looking for. If Goose Island brings a brewpub to CWE that would be a rather big deal I'd think. And hopefully that Cathedral Square plan for Holy Corners is still kicking.

pattimagee · PostMar 03, 2016#4542016-03-03T23:52+00:00

Agreed - I would really like to see Cathedral Square get moving soon.

And I didn't get any specifics on what specific building's 2nd shift was looking into...

billikens&bricks · PostMar 03, 2016#4552016-03-03T23:58+00:00

From what I have heard, 2nd Shift will be in the city not Maplewood. The brewery will be along Manchester but I think technically in the Hill neighborhood.

CarexCurator · PostMar 04, 2016#4562016-03-04T04:29+00:00

^You mean on the south side of Manchester? Where?

pattimagee · PostMar 04, 2016#4572016-03-04T05:49+00:00

That would be cool too - I'm just relaying what I heard from SP. I'm just happy to have them in the city.

debaliviere · PostMar 04, 2016#4582016-03-04T14:41+00:00

billikens&bricks wrote:From what I have heard, 2nd Shift will be in the city not Maplewood. The brewery will be along Manchester but I think technically in the Hill neighborhood.

That's basically what I heard as well - the Hampton and 44 area.

CarexCurator · PostMar 07, 2016#4592016-03-07T16:02+00:00

This story feels like it has taken five years. Brew Hub picks a site to build the $20 million facility they said they'd build many times before. It's great that St. Louis has unusual beer related companies that broaden the ecosystem, but this one is playing a bigger corporate game that has a lot of Chesterfield qualities to it. It'd be nice if they could strike a deal with Billy Busch or Griesedieck Brothers to get more contract brewing happening here rather than in the cities with all the abandoned megabreweries.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 03568.html

pattimagee · PostMar 07, 2016#4602016-03-07T22:01+00:00

A few more notes on the inevitable expansion of 4 hands.

http://www.feastmagazine.com/the-feed/s ... 5e814.html

Also - "We’ve got all vintage arcade games coming. All the arcade games are [from the] 1980’s,” Lemp says. From Pacman to Mike Tyson’s Punch Out, the arcade will be a nostalgic nirvana for those wishing to button mash while sipping down one of 4 Hands' signature beers. "

PostMar 10, 2016#4612016-03-10T19:34+00:00

Looks like the new side project is getting a face lift.

dweebe · PostMar 10, 2016#4622016-03-10T20:05+00:00

pattimagee wrote:Looks like the new side project is getting a face lift.

Getting rid of that stucco crap is great.

But sadly it makes the suburban setback CVS next door look even worse.

pattimagee · PostMar 10, 2016#4632016-03-10T21:47+00:00

Agreed - and FWIW, this is what it looked like before they pulled off the facing.

beer city · PostMar 18, 2016#4642016-03-18T01:52+00:00

...and another -

Senn Bierwerks - no location but there is rendering, looks suburban, but nice

http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/d ... 9a197.html

pattimagee · PostMar 18, 2016#4652016-03-18T02:51+00:00

I wonder if they've made it into the loop?? With such an impressive build/design, it could made sense?

CarexCurator · PostMar 18, 2016#4662016-03-18T12:40+00:00

On the Senn Brewery, a rendering without a location means the plan was created with no context whatsoever. That's the kind of thinking that leads to needless demolition and horrible pedestrian environments.

On Greer's Brewery. Wow another one!
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... 2f740.html

dredger · PostMar 18, 2016#4672016-03-18T13:06+00:00

^ Maybe this will go into Green Street's south side redevelopment on the old coke site? I believe at one point they were negotiating with a food or beverage business. It seems like it might be good fit and maybe they will try to get spill over from South County casino

debaliviere · PostMar 18, 2016#4682016-03-18T14:26+00:00

CarexCurator wrote:On the Senn Brewery, a rendering without a location means the plan was created with no context whatsoever. That's the kind of thinking that leads to needless demolition and horrible pedestrian environments.

Or they're looking at someplace lame, like Maryland Heights.

dbInSouthCity · PostMar 18, 2016#4692016-03-18T14:56+00:00

that rendering screams suburbs.

CarexCurator · PostMar 18, 2016#4702016-03-18T15:02+00:00

Is it the fact that you're looking at it from a mile away or that huge empty area on the side?

pattimagee · PostMar 18, 2016#4712016-03-18T15:14+00:00

I just think with the new Loop residential, street car, etc... dropping a brewery on the east loop would be pretty smart. Fun fact I just learned... The Pageant is in St. Louis City? I didn't know that city line made it into west loop...

CarexCurator · PostMar 18, 2016#4722016-03-18T15:16+00:00

They removed the marker that used to be in front of Thai Gai Yang, but there was (is?) also a welcome to U-City sign and a more obvious border just to the north with a street called "Limit Avenue." The Peacock Diner is maybe in U-City, but United Provisions should be in the city limits.

And yes, a brewery around the Delmar station or just to the east would make a lot of money.

flipz · PostMar 18, 2016#4732016-03-18T15:33+00:00

Loop would be great since that is a major thing missing. Design looks good if the front is meant to be the street but the tree in the foreground seems to suggest parking lot. Really depends on how they place it and don't overwhelm the site with parking. Would be great if we get a brewery in all of the major entertainment areas/streets.

dweebe · PostMar 18, 2016#4742016-03-18T15:40+00:00

pattimagee wrote:Agreed - and FWIW, this is what it looked like before they pulled off the facing.

They're moving along at a good clip. Lots of guys working there yesterday. I'm not sure what the technical term is, but there was a raised area along the roof that was covered and now shows windows. Should let in some good natural light.

moorlander · PostMar 18, 2016#4752016-03-18T15:51+00:00

dweebe wrote:
pattimagee wrote:Agreed - and FWIW, this is what it looked like before they pulled off the facing.

They're moving along at a good clip. Lots of guys working there yesterday. I'm not sure what the technical term is, but there was a raised area along the roof that was covered and now shows windows. Should let in some good natural light.

The term is clerestory

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