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just give us some pics

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I think we were all referring to this comment

and ive got pictures from the inside if anyone would like to see, its a whole different world in there...

We are like impatient school children. I wanna seeeeeeee.....

inside the loading dock area...some guy lives here, ive talked to him.



second floor, someone lives here...



third or fourth floor....



third floor....



from a stairwell looking out...



some graffiti



from another stairwell looking out at the loading dock area.



this man lives in a tent.



theres a couple of these all over the place, warning others about terk and his girlfriend breaking into cars.



terks crackhouse, there are all kinds of pipes and paraphernalia broken along the floor. this is at the very top floor



they're able to bathe here...this is in the basement



see the orb in the middle? unexplainable, and totally creepy.



random stroller in the basement.

the bottom of the elevator shaft..



looking out at the tracks from the second or third floor.



same floor...

third floor.



ice from a hole in the roof



view from the top, had to climb a rusty old ladder for this shot.



the ladder.



some weird room on the roof..



same room.



looking down the stairwell.



view of the arch from the stairwell.



out back.



more orbs.



more orbs..also im sure the lens is clean, i take very good care of my equipment.



very distinct orbs..



more.





i hope you enjoyed these. i also want to let everyone know we do nothing illegal here, only observing and taking pictures. i have an interest in the squalor of the city and id like to take more of different places before they all get renovated/torn down. if you have any ideas for me or places i could check out i would love to hear them. if you have any questions just ask, or shoot me a PM.

Thanks for posting, those are very interesting shots. If you are looking for some ideas about places to go shoot/explore check out the St. Louis section of the underground ozarks site (just google it).

Thanks for the pics. BTW, I've captured "orbs" in every dark and empty building I have been in, even if I have a completely clean lense.

Awsome photos. Thanks for posting. I'm fascinated by squalor too.



I'm always impressed by the way any community - even homeless squatters - develop their own codes and rules of conduct.



Someone oughta shoot a documentary in that place.

Framer wrote:Awsome photos. Thanks for posting. I'm fascinated by squalor too.



I'm always impressed by the way any community - even homeless squatters - develop their own codes and rules of conduct.



Someone oughta shoot a documentary in that place.

working on ideas for a documentary about the homeless in st. louis.



and to the scrutinizer,..its not dust in the lens, and i doubt its dust in the air. if im wrong i need you to prove it, i cant take your word for it.ive seen this elsewhere. but thanks for trying to make me look bad.



trespassing, yes. but we dont damage anything or disturb anything, which is what i meant.

thechariot wrote:

Framer wrote:Awsome photos. Thanks for posting. I'm fascinated by squalor too.



I'm always impressed by the way any community - even homeless squatters - develop their own codes and rules of conduct.



Someone oughta shoot a documentary in that place.

working on ideas for a documentary about the homeless in st. louis.



and to the scrutinizer,..its not dust in the lens, and i doubt its dust in the air. if im wrong i need you to prove it, i cant take your word for it.ive seen this elsewhere. but thanks for trying to make me look bad.



trespassing, yes. but we dont damage anything or disturb anything, which is what i meant.

So reddragon now has two accounts?

i hope this project gets done because that surrounding area looks pretty bad

I see nothing more than dust in those pictures. Anything in the air will get light reflected off it, dust included. Unless there's some kind of further testing (like getting some experts out there) I see no reason to believe that they're spirits. It's dust. Old buildings have it, even fairly new buildings have it (I could probably take pictures of dust in my own house).



It may feel creepy in the building, but (in my opinion) basically any old building feels creepy. That doesn't mean it's haunted.



I'm sorry, but I just don't see your reasoning.

Some people forget to follow some very basic rules about ghost hunting. Don't photograph in the rain, snow or fog and don't expect everything in your picture is a true ghost orb. Remember that even the cleanest home has dust. When doing an in home investigation and someone is walking around shuffling their feet on the carpet, then dust is being stirred up . A lot of digital cameras will pick this up and it will look like an spirit orb. The pictures below are a good example of orbs. Notice how the one on the top taken at a cemetery if perfectly round , the second was taken at an in home investigation. The second orbs are slightly odd shaped, some are almost egg shape. A lot of the dust orbs are flat and lack dimension. We have seen many sites that are willing to post anything that is "roundish" and call it a ghost orb. We've even seen one picture of someone on their front porch smoking and all around them were hexagon shaped anomalies. They called these ghost orbs. Orbs can very in size, color and brightness. It is believed this has to do with how much energy the spirit is able to bring through and the distance between you and the spirit. The best advice we can give to someone is to examine every orb photo you get. If it's misshapen, lacks depth and texture you have a natural anomaly such as moisture, dust or even an insect flying past your lens. When in doubt, throw it out. We have hundreds of photos that we do not post because we feel they are not a true ghost orbs. We examine every photo carefully and do our best to determine the true from the false. Spirit orbs will greatly effect the electromagnetic fields and dust will not.

http://www.theupia.com/id31.html



It may be a spirit orb, but I wouldn't automatically assume that. buildings have plenty of dust, so that's very possibly your "spirit".

Shimmy wrote:Anybody watch "Ghost Hunters" on sci-fi? Now they can catch some pretty creepy, unexplainable stuff.

The new "Internantional" version is not very good, but I really enjoy the original.

And Central I don't think you can explain away everything they can catch -I'm not saying they are ghosts but just that there's often not enough evidence (or any evidence) other that say a voice or a sound on a recorder to deduce what caused it.

Awesome pics, I'm sure something will be done with this place. The location is too prime; especially if choteau's 4th street gets going.

so im wrong. i admit it, youre an elitist and you win! and who is red dragon? im just a guy interested in taking pictures of this stuff. anyway, does anyone know when the building was put out of use? im going out today to scope out some new places, maybe hit up the same building with a different camera. if you have suggestions id love to hear them.\



edit- i should get my hands on one of those emf meters.

working on ideas for a documentary about the homeless in st. louis.

If you want creepy, squalor, and homeless, see existing thread about the cass tubes/tucker tunnel..... Apparently there is a whole community down there. I posted a pic of the entrance on the thread, but I value my life and my camera, so I did not enter, plus I was alone.



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