just to reply to the question from the skippy! I thought it looked like a cover because it look as if is was blowing in the wind the other day, just the part in the center... maybe i was wrong if it is metal, but it appeared to be a covering...
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I bet the brown streak will end up looking like the metal of the arch. They stated that the design goal was to mimic the arch, so it is logical that it would end up looking like the arch steel color.
I can see today that it is some type of covering. The high winds last night have put a lot of ripples in the skin.
What's the over/under on how many pages will be added to this thread once the protective plastic comes off and the building gets completely lit for the first time?
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jlblues wrote:And while you combed-over brown streak deniers are waiting, anyone want to make a wager??? It is a gambling establishment we are talking about after all.
If I were a betting man, I'd take that bet.
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There has been lots of judgements on this but its not even completed. I think I am going to reserve my judgement until I see the finish product. However, I hope they do put up the glass.
DeBaliviere wrote:jlblues wrote:And while you combed-over brown streak deniers are waiting
If I were a betting man, I'd take that bet.
Children, this is what you call a cop-out. I guess nobody is willing to put their money where their mouth is. Where is the emoticon for a long sigh?- 10K
jlblues wrote:DeBaliviere wrote:jlblues wrote:And while you combed-over brown streak deniers are waiting
If I were a betting man, I'd take that bet.
I'll bet you a buck.
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jlblues wrote:^You're on! Hell, I'll even give you 10 to 1 odds.
Just to clarify then, I'm betting that the combover won't end up in its current brown shade, right?
^Correct, you are betting that the combed-over streak will not, in daylight, be it's current shade of baby sh*t brown when the hotel is complete. When it is dark, of course, the COS could be any one of a million colors.
This is all provided that the comb-over does not blow off in the next few days.
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This is all provided that the comb-over does not blow off in the next few days.
I just spoke to a male representative (Brian) of the Four Seasons Hotel. He stated that arc and comb-over will remain brown. He stated that hundreds of little lights are being placed in the arc and comb-over. He also stated that the lights will be white most of the time, which will illuminate at night (of course), however, there are talks that the color of the lights could be changed for special events or holidays like Christmas.
Nevertheless, the lights will be white most of the time, and arc and comb-over will remain brown during the daytime.
Nevertheless, the lights will be white most of the time, and arc and comb-over will remain brown during the daytime.
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^ wow... I just looked at the webcam and zoomed in, and that brown coverting look really wavy
You are right. I'm just telling relaying what I was told.bpe235 wrote:^ wow... I just looked at the webcam and zoomed in, and that brown coverting look really wavy
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If you look at today's webcam, post-4PM, the comb-over seems to be developing a hole toward the east end, near the top. Combine that with the waviness, and I wonder if the wind isn't giving them problems with their comb-over - damn, isn't that always the case! Either that or the crane operator swung the hook into it. Ouch! In any case, it might explain why they haven't placed any additional sections in awhile.
Either that or the crane operator swung the hook into it. Ouch! In any case, it might explain why they haven't placed any additional sections in awhile. That would be rather surprising. It just seems to defeat much of the purpose of the lightbox. With LED lights you can literally achieve any color imaginable and they can change colors faster than the eye can perceive them - the large display at Busch Stadium is (or was) cutting-edge LED technology. The lights in the arc and comb-over could be programmed for many different effects, like, I dunno, a shimmering rainbow, or a waving flag, or something...I definitely prefer that they leave it white, but it still seems like a waste if they do.He also stated that the lights will be white most of the time...
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jlblues wrote:If you look at today's webcam, post-4PM, the comb-over seems to be developing a hole toward the east end, near the top. Combine that with the waviness, and I wonder if the wind isn't giving them problems with their comb-over - damn, isn't that always the case!
I see what you are talking about it does seem rather strange looking.
Although I tend to agree with what Arch City said about the color, only because on my way home from work today I noticed the cinder block sections facing 70 are now painted....... thats right kids the same baby S**t brown as the streak.
I plan on trying to get down there tomorrow and snap some up close pics of the streak. Well as close as I can get that is. If they turn out well I will post them here.
^As long as you are going down there Skippy, and since the cat is out of the bag, so to speak, you might want to get some closeup pics of the remaining comb-over sections sitting on the ground on the north side of the hotel. They are between the two construction parking lots and anyone can walk right up and touch them. Hope Ed Boxx doesn't find out. 
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jlblues wrote:^You're on! Hell, I'll even give you 10 to 1 odds.
Despite the conversation above, I'll take the bet as well. Let's go with a tall regular coffee for the wager . . . :hyper:
Don't worry, they will soon peel off the top layer of paint to reveal the true white color.SkippyThePeanutButterMan wrote:...I noticed the cinder block sections facing 70 are now painted....... thats right kids the same baby S**t brown as the streak.
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Here ya go.....
http://www.flickr.com/gp/15536965@N04/x5KKC8
I got as close as I could, jlblues I didnt see your post until after I was home so I did not see the remaining pieces on the ground.
I am even more confused than before after taking a good look at the pics I took. I think I am done for now and will wait to see what the final result is.
http://www.flickr.com/gp/15536965@N04/x5KKC8
I got as close as I could, jlblues I didnt see your post until after I was home so I did not see the remaining pieces on the ground.
I am even more confused than before after taking a good look at the pics I took. I think I am done for now and will wait to see what the final result is.
^Nice pics. I'll see if I can get down there one of these days and get some closeups before they install the last comb-over pieces.
Great shot of the hole. It appears that one of the metal panels got ripped out and twisted...somehow. Bet that is going to be a b*tch to repair. Also, is it my imagination, or do the metal panels seem to be getting more and more warped as time goes on, especially after the last few really windy days? I hope all those that designed and manufactured this knew what they were doing, or they are going to lose a lot of $$$, or at least their insurance company is. They DID say that the lightbox was the "first-of-its-kind"...
Great shot of the hole. It appears that one of the metal panels got ripped out and twisted...somehow. Bet that is going to be a b*tch to repair. Also, is it my imagination, or do the metal panels seem to be getting more and more warped as time goes on, especially after the last few really windy days? I hope all those that designed and manufactured this knew what they were doing, or they are going to lose a lot of $$$, or at least their insurance company is. They DID say that the lightbox was the "first-of-its-kind"...
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So, see through brown covering, eh?
Well, not going to be a big fan of daytime viewing. Given its location on the riverfront down from the Arch, well, sort of embarrassing during the day. All the tourists on the Arch grounds will look at it and say, what the heck is that building? Good for the casino because maybe they will wander over, but for the skyline ... geesh. The only comfort I take is that the brown is not that far from the color of the brick that is used in the casino and in the dome, so maybe it won't stick out as bad.
Judging by the pics STPBM posted, I would guess they are going with a more traditional light source and not LEDs. Given the size of the combover, "hundreds" of LEDs would only cover a floor or two. Whereas a couple hundred florescent type bulbs would be about right. This would make the "white most of the time" statement accurate. But, it would be possible to put in red or other bulbs for special occasions like the All-Star Game.
The light behind the brown see-through covering will give a glowing effect to the entire combover at night (I guess the brown will not affect the color of glow, but I guess it could). However, I wonder how much light will come out of the hotel room windows as the light coming out of the windows may be brighter than the glow of the combover.
I don't know. This has been one interesting build. I would guess there are more surprises yet to come.
Well, not going to be a big fan of daytime viewing. Given its location on the riverfront down from the Arch, well, sort of embarrassing during the day. All the tourists on the Arch grounds will look at it and say, what the heck is that building? Good for the casino because maybe they will wander over, but for the skyline ... geesh. The only comfort I take is that the brown is not that far from the color of the brick that is used in the casino and in the dome, so maybe it won't stick out as bad.
Judging by the pics STPBM posted, I would guess they are going with a more traditional light source and not LEDs. Given the size of the combover, "hundreds" of LEDs would only cover a floor or two. Whereas a couple hundred florescent type bulbs would be about right. This would make the "white most of the time" statement accurate. But, it would be possible to put in red or other bulbs for special occasions like the All-Star Game.
The light behind the brown see-through covering will give a glowing effect to the entire combover at night (I guess the brown will not affect the color of glow, but I guess it could). However, I wonder how much light will come out of the hotel room windows as the light coming out of the windows may be brighter than the glow of the combover.
I don't know. This has been one interesting build. I would guess there are more surprises yet to come.
From the pics it appears to be more of a metal mesh, not really panels. I guess we will just have to wait find out.
*Beating head against wall*MattnSTL wrote:From the pics it appears to be more of a metal mesh, not really panels. I guess we will just have to wait find out.
It is almost exactly like RBB's picture. The holes are a bit smaller than a dime, with translucent plastic lining the inside of the panel.
RBB wrote:See, it appeared to me to be a thin perforated metal, almost like a screen. something like this:
Except turd brown. It just had that painted metal sheen to it ,unlike a cloth or vinyl covering.
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