Ok, well I’ve only driven by it. I’ll give you guys more credit. I can’t sit and analyze it in the same way.
Framer wrote:This sign is cheesy.
We've all seen the Blueberry Hill and Pinup Bowl signs, right? I wasn't expecting something much different, especially considering it's for a bowling alley topped by a flamingo. It just sounds gaudy.
Nonetheless, I'm a fan. I can't help but think so many of the tourists and even downtown employees remain clueless of the places downtown due to subtle signage. This will certainly be noticed.
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previous page...I'll see if I can get a close up
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^my dell must be broke cuz I see only a sexy pic of Joe Edwards on prior pages
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Duh...its in the downtown residential projects section under the Lucas Lofts thread.
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Well, it doesn't really seem to match the building much.
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It's Edwardsonian Cheese taken to high art. (Has anyone seen those plans for the Moonrise Hotel?)
Actually, though, it's not all that bad by that picture's account.
I'll reserve judgment though until I see it in person.
Actually, though, it's not all that bad by that picture's account.
I'll reserve judgment though until I see it in person.
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I'm afraid there was never much hope for a retro, flamingo-themed bowling alley "matching" this particular building, but I think the sign is pretty fun. The design isn't exactly a huge surprise given Blueberry Hill, Pin-Up Bowl, etc.
Oh, and Edwardsonian Cheese is a wonderful term. It lends a certain gravitas to a 12 foot high pink bird.
Oh, and Edwardsonian Cheese is a wonderful term. It lends a certain gravitas to a 12 foot high pink bird.
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Matt Drops The H wrote:It's Edwardsonian Cheese taken to high art. (Has anyone seen those plans for the Moonrise Hotel?)
Actually, though, it's not all that bad by that picture's account.
I'll reserve judgment though until I see it in person.
Alone, I'm not a huge fan of Pin-Up Bowl, the Pageant, the Flamingobowl sign, or the Moonrise Hotel, but I think they add some funky, if a little quirky, attitude to their hoods. I wouldn't want to see a half dozen more similar signs/facades, but I really think that 10 or 20 years from now when something else is in fashion, these will all be appreciated.
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The City has encouraged new retailers to be bold with their signage and that's what we're getting. The signage may not blend with the buildings but they do grab the eye and that's what they're supposed to do.
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The signs are really looking better and better when you start down near the bridge and head West. In 2017 when that bridge comes down it will look even better.
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I took a close look at the sign today and the flamingo will be outlined in neon and the "Flamingo Bowl" on the front will be neon as well - at least there are holes for the tubing for both places. IMO - the sign is great and will add some more interest to Wash Ave.
Well, it doesn't really seem to match the building much.
probably the dumbest quote I've ever read on this forum. sorry, how is the sign supposed to "match" the building? Out of the box signage is what the city is going for, and that's what they're getting. It's bold, draws attention, and it's done in a tasteful manner. I think the signage in the Loop looks excellent too. Is it "too wild" for St. Louisans taste? w.t,f is going on here?
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Exactly what I was thinking. That's what I love about the city; the things that are different, stand out, draws attention. Why would you want something like this to blend in? It's just one of those things, nobody can ever be happy. Have to b**** about everything.
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I like the sign and it does stand out which is what it is designed to do.
I was in belleville the other day and a friend of mine who does not go "downtown" very often was asking me about the dubliner, and said " Is that east or west from the flamingo bowling alley?"
He has seen the sign while driving... So even the casual downtown visitor knows it is there.
I was in belleville the other day and a friend of mine who does not go "downtown" very often was asking me about the dubliner, and said " Is that east or west from the flamingo bowling alley?"
He has seen the sign while driving... So even the casual downtown visitor knows it is there.
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Really? The dumbest? Perhaps not my finest English language moment but I don't hate the sign, I just think it's a good fit for that building. I have theimpression that neither the design nor the color of the building were a factor in choosing the signage. There, now you have a new dumbest comment you've ever read on here. Btw, your manners suck.JCity wrote:Well, it doesn't really seem to match the building much.
probably the dumbest quote I've ever read on this forum. sorry, how is the sign supposed to "match" the building? Out of the box signage is what the city is going for, and that's what they're getting. It's bold, draws attention, and it's done in a tasteful manner. I think the signage in the Loop looks excellent too. Is it "too wild" for St. Louisans taste? w.t,f is going on here?
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Juice13610 wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. That's what I love about the city; the things that are different, stand out, draws attention. Why would you want something like this to blend in? It's just one of those things, nobody can ever be happy. Have to b**** about everything.
I don't want it to blend in. I want it not to suck.
The marquee box is pointless and ugly.
The vertical lettering looks like a parking garage.
What is not seen in this pic is the tacky Bowling Pins that line the blue box.
And the illustrated flamingo is the urban equivalent to having a flamingo in your yard.
And as for whining, I've never been much of a complainer here...ever. This is DIRECTLY across from my home. Compared to all other signage along washington, sans Goodworks, it lacks thought and taste.
So if I understand why someone from Fairview Heights doesn't mind it, please understand why I do.
I'll also try to get an up to date pic...
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I looked at it closely several times while I was downtown on Saturday, and I don't think it's all that bad. Not great, but not horribly offensive either.
Now, OTOH, the Blueberry Hill marquee is Bransonesque rubbish.
Now, OTOH, the Blueberry Hill marquee is Bransonesque rubbish.
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TheWayoftheArch wrote:Juice13610 wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. That's what I love about the city; the things that are different, stand out, draws attention. Why would you want something like this to blend in? It's just one of those things, nobody can ever be happy. Have to b**** about everything.
I don't want it to blend in. I want it not to suck.
The marquee box is pointless and ugly.
The vertical lettering looks like a parking garage.
What is not seen in this pic is the tacky Bowling Pins that line the blue box.
And the illustrated flamingo is the urban equivalent to having a flamingo in your yard.
And as for whining, I've never been much of a complainer here...ever. This is DIRECTLY across from my home. Compared to all other signage along washington, sans Goodworks, it lacks thought and taste.
So if I understand why someone from Fairview Heights doesn't mind it, please understand why I do.
I'll also try to get an up to date pic...
Everyone wants development downtown, but b**** about it when it doesn't meet their standards in every way imaginable. Lumiere place has the "streak," every building proposed in the last 5 years has "uninspired architecture," etc. Get over it. If every building looked like the Olive Corporate Center, I would understand.
I usually remain quiet on these things because I don't live in the city, but it gets old. Recently reading on the Lumiere Place thread, MDTH says "I see how good architecture is so expensive if this is a 500 million dollar project." Give me a break. A lot of you couldn't be satisfied with anything, ever.
I'll be living in Maplewood soon, I'm hoping, so maybe then I will have the right to chime in on these issues.
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Juice13610 wrote:TheWayoftheArch wrote:Juice13610 wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. That's what I love about the city; the things that are different, stand out, draws attention. Why would you want something like this to blend in? It's just one of those things, nobody can ever be happy. Have to b**** about everything.
I don't want it to blend in. I want it not to suck.
The marquee box is pointless and ugly.
The vertical lettering looks like a parking garage.
What is not seen in this pic is the tacky Bowling Pins that line the blue box.
And the illustrated flamingo is the urban equivalent to having a flamingo in your yard.
And as for whining, I've never been much of a complainer here...ever. This is DIRECTLY across from my home. Compared to all other signage along washington, sans Goodworks, it lacks thought and taste.
So if I understand why someone from Fairview Heights doesn't mind it, please understand why I do.
I'll also try to get an up to date pic...
Everyone wants development downtown, but b**** about it when it doesn't meet their standards in every way imaginable. Lumiere place has the "streak," every building proposed in the last 5 years has "uninspired architecture," etc. Get over it. If every building looked like the Olive Corporate Center, I would understand.
I usually remain quiet on these things because I don't live in the city, but it gets old. Recently reading on the Lumiere Place thread, MDTH says "I see how good architecture is so expensive if this is a 500 million dollar project." Give me a break. A lot of you couldn't be satisfied with anything, ever.
I'll be living in Maplewood soon, I'm hoping, so maybe then I will have the right to chime in on these issues.
And none of that was me.
I like the comb over.
So when 3 of us don't think this fits, calm down and quit acting like we're fatalists.
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Actually, I believe it was you who blew it out of proportion. I just made a statement.
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^ Oh, please feel free to chime in now! We take all kinds.
Oh NOW I see - Arch. Even new downtown residents are NIMBYs!? No, I certainly understand that some don't like the sign and that's it's especially galling if you don't like it AND it's directly across from your building, but I say take the sign and oh yeah, there's a business that will attract a lot of people (and hopefully be managed well) attached to it. And I like the vertical sign. If the flamingo was lounging sideways I'd be freaked out!
This is DIRECTLY across from my home.
Oh NOW I see - Arch. Even new downtown residents are NIMBYs!?
No, I certainly understand that some don't like the sign and that's it's especially galling if you don't like it AND it's directly across from your building, but I say take the sign and oh yeah, there's a business that will attract a lot of people (and hopefully be managed well) attached to it. And I like the vertical sign. If the flamingo was lounging sideways I'd be freaked out!