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Do you know what cameras they use? Curious on the cost of them

^I'd be curious also

May crime stats are out... slight uptick in homicide and slight decrease on overall violent crime with a nice 11% decrease in property crime.

http://www.slmpd.org/crimestats/CRM0013-BY_201605.pdf

For downtown, it is interesting to note that while there has been an increase in crime east of Tucker, there has been an almost exact decrease in Downtown West and when you combine the two, violent crime actually is slightly down.

imran wrote:Got some more information about security cameras.
Now I am not an IT guy but they use IP video surveillance cameras using Genetec.
A camera (with license plate recognition) costs around $2K. Installation is additional and depends on whether the camera is installed on its own and wirelessly transmits the video to a receiver that communicates with the STLPD system. On the other hand, if the camera is installed on a traffic signal and uses fiber, the additional costs would be less.

That's actually not that bad. I was expecting way worse.

http://fox2now.com/2016/06/09/family-of ... ce-before/

Just outside Cafe Osage and this project: https://nextstl.com/2015/03/mixing-new- ... 528-olive/

I certainly agree focus should be on the crime problem and not the crime stats problem. What I don't get is how doing something about the crime stats problem would then lead to ignoring the crime problem more somehow. Seems our current fragmentation allows for many more of us to ignore/ not take ownership/ resist putting resources into the crime problem. Doesn't the current state of the crime problem refute the argument that the crime stats problem motivates us to tackle the crime problem?

^^ moorlander, was that in response to the CWE shooting?

urban_dilettante wrote:^^ moorlander, was that in response to the CWE shooting?

Yes the victim was an employee


http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/06/10/ ... co-worker/

So the shooting was not premeditated, appears to be an attempted robbery gone wrong, in one of STL's "best" neighborhoods, and the victim is an employee of a tech company whose CEO is very positively outspoken about STL. Just awful.

It doesn't get worse than this.

moorlander wrote: Yes the victim was an employee

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/06/10/ ... co-worker/

Randy wrote: So the shooting was not premeditated, appears to be an attempted robbery gone wrong, in one of STL's "best" neighborhoods, and the victim is an employee of a tech company whose CEO is very positively outspoken about STL. Just awful. :cry

It doesn't get worse than this.

bad indeed...

Two blocks from where I live.

There's usually a heavy police patrol in the CWE, but I rarely see it go as far north as Olive and Washington.

Another robbery/shooting in the CWE, also another case of the victim complying and still being shot, sickening. Luckily he survived.

arch city wrote:

cteclipse wrote:Another robbery/shooting in the CWE, also another case of the victim complying and still being shot, sickening. Luckily he survived.

Is there a link to the story?

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... ce=dlvr.it

Sounds like a Knock Out Game incident. Seems like it's been a while since we've heard about one of those.

KSDK - Man assaulted in by teens in south city neighborhood

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/man-assa ... /257737791

semi-permanent police checkpoints on all the bridges would put a stop to the garbage coming from ESTL to cause trouble, and to garbage fleeing to ESTL after causing trouble.

I'm not sure if theres much Dotson can do or any other police chief I've always thought about checkpoints as well but what good would those be if we're living in a region thats already racially hostile?
I for one would enjoy seeing Dotson replaced but how do we go about that finding a chief that has the credentials expertise knowledge not afraid to lay the law and actually does his/her responsibilities in a professional way without alienating an already rifted yet fragile city. Perhaps we should look outside the region maybe even international who can bring a city of 315,000 from of the worlds most dangerous to one of the worlds most safest cause right now I'm beyond tired.

How are the checkpoints supposed to work? Other than "pull over all the hoopties."

^ i'm not talking about stopping people randomly, but in the case of a car-jacking, for example, they could watch for the perps/stolen car. combined with cameras/license plate recognition/face recognition technology and retractable bollards on both ends of the bridge it could make for a handy trap.

3 more killed last night. Murder, carjackings and windows shot out in CWE, near Lafayette Square and Tower Grove....A very liberal friend of mine who lives in Lafayette Square asked me the other day after his neighbor (who had just moved here from Nashville) got his windows shot out:

"Why does STL have such violent black people?"

Anybody have answer? Because crime in the city is almost getting laughable.

We do an especially good job of keeping them in poverty.