Eh, I consider it part of the natural selection processdweebe wrote: ↑Sep 09, 2021Unfortunately I get dragged to Monster Jam every year as I have kids. But we all wear ear protection the entire time. The first time we went my wife didn't wear ear protection and her ears rang for two weeks.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Sep 09, 2021Where else could I have a day of fun and blow out my eardrums for only TEN BUCKS
I get angry when I see kids without ear protection at those shows.
That Holiday Inn will be in such a prime location. Crazy to spend so much money creating an elaborate ballroom, outdoor event green space, and porte cochere which literally wraps around the ugliest, most out-of-place hotel downtown.
Your unbridled optimism is remarkable.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Sep 03, 2021
- If the Dome gets torn down where will the Battlehawks play? Probably the MLS Stadium but it really felt for a moment that they could fill the Dome on a regular basis before COVID ruined everything
Isn’t it a combined convention center/arena campus already? I don’t think the Dome is that ugly. A new roof and some aesthetic upgrades would bring it up to speed. I think it’s more the area around the dome that needs to be overhauledSuburban Sprawl wrote:In a total fantasy world I'd have loved a combined Convention Center/Arena/Amphitheater type campus. Everytime I see that Dome part of me dies inside. Blow it up if anything in the name of civic pride. Does the CC do any better business wise by having a 66/67k seated stadium attached to it at this point?
It has great acoustics for concerts, terrible for sports. It's completely dead inside. That's one reason I hated that Madrid - Milan game so much. It was too quiet.Trololzilla wrote: ↑Sep 24, 2021It's great for musical events as I've heard that it has just about the best acoustics of any "NFL" dome.
Didn't they add those sound deadening blankets under the roof because it was too loud? Or maybe too much of an echo?aprice wrote: ↑Sep 24, 2021It has great acoustics for concerts, terrible for sports. It's completely dead inside. That's one reason I hated that Madrid - Milan game so much. It was too quiet.Trololzilla wrote: ↑Sep 24, 2021It's great for musical events as I've heard that it has just about the best acoustics of any "NFL" dome.
Street Fighting ManIt’s tough to stray too far from familiar hits when you’re playing a place as large as the 50,000-seat Dome, but the Stones did debut their 2020 single “Living in a Ghost Town,” and broke out their 1966 classic “19th Nervous Breakdown” for the first time in 16 years. It crackled with life and had the whole stadium singing along. For most bands, a song that beloved would be a staple at every concert. For the Stones, it’s just another tune in their ridiculously vast catalog.
The highlight of the night may have been “Midnight Rambler,” which lasted for an incredible 12 minutes and gave Jordan the best opportunity to show off his chops. The song grows in scope on every single tour, but it’s never sounded this devious and menacing. It also went through more distinct sections than an early-Seventies Yes song. Amazingly, the crowd held on through the entire ride and never seemed bored.
Not too shabby.WWE (NYSE: WWE) said Royal Rumble, headlined by two 30-men and 30-women matches, would mark the largest venue to host the event in its 30-year history.
Well-said. It was an awesome concert and the Dome is a fantastic music venue. It shows what downtown can be if we ever got our schitt together.gary kreie wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2021My wife and I went to the Stones concert. It was great. A little hard to hear dialogue from the front rows of the upper ring but the music was awesome. And Jagger was all over the stage and runway constantly. Gigantic hi-res screens were amazing.
One nice thing about the Dome location - it is within a block or 2 of so many hotels which is great for folks alive when Satisfaction was released. We decided to get a room at the Marriott Grand across the street for that evening. It was full. Brought our own food and wine, used digital key to go straight to the room. Easy walk back the hotel after the concert and had a leisurely breakfast buffet the next morning downstairs. Not many stadia can do this.
I wonder if tours like Garth and Stones like the dome because they can make it completely dark inside at 7:30. No translucent dome or open air. And out of the weather. Another Sunday where I didn’t miss the Rams.
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Both Garth Brooks and the Stones kicked off their tours here. Since the Dome doesn't have to worry about a football or baseball tenant and what you mentioned, they can do the final rehearsals that include the full stage, videos and lights.gary kreie wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2021My wife and I went to the Stones concert. It was great. A little hard to hear dialogue from the front rows of the upper ring but the music was awesome. And Jagger was all over the stage and runway constantly. Gigantic hi-res screens were amazing.
One nice thing about the Dome location - it is within a block or 2 of so many hotels which is great for folks alive when Satisfaction was released. We decided to get a room at the Marriott Grand across the street for that evening. It was full. Brought our own food and wine, used digital key to go straight to the room. Easy walk back the hotel after the concert and had a leisurely breakfast buffet the next morning downstairs. Not many stadia can do this.
I wonder if tours like Garth and Stones like the dome because they can make it completely dark inside at 7:30. No translucent dome or open air. And out of the weather. Another Sunday where I didn’t miss the Rams.
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Coupled with the Gateway Productions project that begins to make a lot of sense. Use the dome as the ultimate tour tweaking device. I don't know whether it would ever pay for upkeep, but the cultural benefit of all the music would be absolutely priceless.dweebe wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2021Both Garth Brooks and the Stones kicked off their tours here. Since the Dome doesn't have to worry about a football or baseball tenant and what you mentioned, they can do the final rehearsals that include the full stage, videos and lights.
I know some of the stadium tours used to like to use the stadium at Hershey Park for rehearsals. Artists like Genesis, U2, Metallica and others have practiced there. But it's an open air stadium next to an amusement park so that presents issues with light and people being able to hear a band try to get songs and the stage show synced up. The Dome allows a level of privacy plus a climate controlled environment.
They pretty much give the convention center away to conventions in return for theoretical "economic impact," don't they? Do they do the same for concerts and truck rallies?urbanitas wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2021Anyone have any idea how much the CVC makes off of a concert like the Stones or one of these big Wrasslin' or Loud-Engines-Go-Vroom redneck draws? In other words, how many events like this would they need annually to cover expenses, plus all of the deferred Dome maintenance? Or, is the goal just to break even to pull in big events so they can fill hotel rooms?
I was using the word theoretical more to quantify the amount of room nights, not to imply that some people don't stay in hotel rooms. As the article highlights from Washington, the actual number of room nights were wildly overestimated when used as justification for building the accompanying hotel.dredger wrote: ↑Oct 01, 2021^ I would argue that a good share of that theoretical "economic impact" is very much quantified in hotel bookings alone as most conventions will block room for out of town guests and therefore a direct number along with the respective tax receipts collected can be attributed. A little more difficult and fuzzy but some reasonable economic assessment can be made in terms of travel to/from and food which are tax generating endeavors as anyone who travel realizes (taxes on rental cars, eateries and hotel bills add up). I think that is a very different from say a pro sporting event or even say a monster truck with a much more local/metro draw, drive in for the game, spend most of your money inside the even and drive home.
I haven't looked around, but that info should be publicly available. I'm sure it will come out during the NFL trial, if there is one, in any case.bprop wrote: ↑Oct 01, 2021
In either case, I agree that the CVC wouldn't necessarily give away the arena for a one-day truck rally...but if there's nobody else knocking on the door, would they? Do we even know?
I thought it was pretty conventional wisdom that convention centers (not sure about stadiums as standalone entities) are loss leaders. Maybe not entirely accurate, but certainly a reputation they have had for some time.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Oct 02, 2021From my understanding (which, I've been out of that industry for a while now so maybe it's changed), arenas and stadiums typically only agree to lower rent for events when the concession food and beverage forecasts can justify it. For your average convention, I don't believe convention centers or arenas provide any discounts based upon anticipated economic impact. Now, if say a Comic-con level event were to approach STL and propose such a deal, that would be different than just your average monster truck event or boat show.
