Old news. Nothing is happening.
Developer never tells the truth.
Developer never tells the truth.
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I can't vouch for the developer, but if they've been actively shopping around for New Markets investors in recent months, then the project may still happen.
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Public hearing is December 6th, according to the twitter.Presbyterian wrote:I'm hearing rumors that this project is not dead, but that the proposed site has moved south to Bohemian Hill, behind the Walgreens. The new plan would hug the back of the site, along the highway. I'm hearing they are working on financing, tax credits, etc.
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^ the hearing will be for the proposed market/food hub next to the Walgreens mentioned upthread. Not sure of website, but take a look at the twitter feed "ours" on the homepage.
So Lafayette Square/Near Southside/Gate District, which currently is a food desert will become a food paradise?roger wyoming II wrote:^ the hearing will be for the proposed market/food hub next to the Walgreens mentioned upthread. Not sure of website, but take a look at the twitter feed "ours" on the homepage.
Between Save A Lot and StL Food Hub (not including Soulard Market and Walgreens) there will be lots of options to go around...
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Looks like 3 days notice on the hearing? Am guessing it was published/posted elsewhere, but many are just seeing it now.
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I thought this was dead when Sappington market went belly up?
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Ah, I thought Food Hub was a brand name, like Foodland.moorlander wrote:I thought this was dead when Sappington market went belly up?
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The current plan at the Walgreen's site is a revamped, scaled-down version of the plan originally slated for the City Hospital site (at your link.) Here is an article from Summer 2011 which describes the scaled-down version: http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 5d5bc.htmlmoorlander wrote:I thought this was dead when Sappington market went belly up?
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However, I don't know if the Sappington folks are still in play or if the developer went another route, and/or if there has been further adjustments in the scope of the project. Hopefully there will be some media covering tomorrow's hearing. Too bad the original plan didn't go through, it would have been awesome.
Who is F2F? Never heard about them before... I'd be concerned with long-term viability for this project given it appears that product costs aren't likely to be economical. Sounds pleasant, anyway.debaliviere wrote:Ah, I thought Food Hub was a brand name, like Foodland.moorlander wrote:I thought this was dead when Sappington market went belly up?
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Of the remaining stretch of homes along Tucker, it appears that over the past week one is being renovated and another one demolished.
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Is there a law against them being open on Sundays?
Yes, the law of the status quo, it's very big in these parts.
Yes, the law of the status quo, it's very big in these parts.
I recall in the plans to renovate the Soulard Market, they talked about it being open on Sunday once the renovations are done. I don't understand why it can't happen now.Alex Ihnen wrote:^ was wondering the same - Soulard Market is city-owned btw
I am in agreement that the area doesn't need another farmer's market but an actual grocery store with good produce.
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This project was announced three years ago. While I can sympathize with some of the Soulard vendors, the time to speak was when it was still just a concept. Personally, I think Sappington will do much for the area and target a different consumer than most Soulard vendors. Think expensive hydroponic tomatoes vs. inexpensive tomatoes-left-on-Produce-Row-after-Schnucks-took-the-good-ones.
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Well that's harsh. Isn't this the first public hearing?Presbyterian wrote:This project was announced three years ago. While I can sympathize with some of the Soulard vendors, the time to speak was when it was still just a concept.
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Perhaps Sappington should run Soulard Market instead of it being city-owned?
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^^Sorry. No intention to be harsh. The RFT ran a story on this in February 2010 which was picked up by other media. I guess I'm just wondering why this is the first I'm hearing of any opposition to Sappington building in the city. That puzzles me.
Somewhat surprised or maybe confused why the developer doesn't pursue multi unit residential on this site or part of his development considering the recent success/proposals going forward in the city. Especially with some of the success across the street with the old city hospital. I believe Alex outlined a pretty good plan going forward.
I really wonder how big the market is for the type of produce you describe in the Soulard/near-southside area. Yes, the majority of the vendors are pushing produce of questionable freshness, but there also a handful of vendors there with good locally sourced produce, meat, eggs etc., even a nice bakery and a small spice shop. There are plenty of places for shopper who care about what they are eating. If the demand was there for more such vendors I would think that more would step up to fill that void.I think Sappington will do much for the area and target a different consumer than most Soulard vendors. Think expensive hydroponic tomatoes vs. inexpensive tomatoes-left-on-Produce-Row-after-Schnucks-took-the-good-ones.
As far as targeting a different type of consumer, you may be right. I think many of the people who pack the place on weekends are there because, "hey let's go to the Soulard Farmer's Market! We can people watch!" Which is fine, I love having the market and its patrons in the neighborhood every Saturday. I'm just not sure the type of consumer that a more upscale farmers market would be targeting is currently lacking in options at the Soulard Market.