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PostDec 13, 2007#2726

Looks like the guy was just playing around the with original renderings for BPV.

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PostDec 13, 2007#2727

WTH???? YES PLEASE! Imagine something different and interesting in STL...If only buidling the BPV were as easy as coming up with a fancy rendering....We need more thinking "out of the box".... This city was founded by cutting edge thinkers.... we should be required to match that historic "cutting edge" with our contemporary architecture...

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PostDec 13, 2007#2728





I thought it was one of Kevin McGowan's daydreams on paper. 8)

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PostDec 13, 2007#2729

Not that "out of the box". He just stole a Calatrava design. :wink:




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PostDec 13, 2007#2730

a thousand times, YES!!

PLEASE

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PostDec 13, 2007#2731

The Turning Torso. Great piece of work!

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PostDec 13, 2007#2732

Not that "out of the box". He just stole a Calatrava design.
Well hell, lets just hire Calatrava then. Maybe it's time we forum members take the BPV into our own hands. I can pitch in about 100 bucks. Maybe Santiago has a warm place in his heart for STL and will give us the homie hookup....

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PostDec 13, 2007#2733

Magnatron wrote:Well hell, lets just hire Calatrava then. Maybe it's time we forum members take the BPV into our own hands. I can pitch in about 100 bucks. Maybe Santiago has a warm place in his heart for STL and will give us the homie hookup....


He's my favorite architect. I wish we could have hired him to design the multi-modal transportation center.

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PostDec 14, 2007#2734

maybe it is just me, but these twisting boxes are a little cliche now. Everywhere you look, there is another design concept that simply rotates floor plates. I think there are many ways that architecture can be used to bring something truly distinctive to the Ballpark Village. However, it is a radical rethinking of boxy, boring, conservative downtown STL architectural tradition.

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PostDec 14, 2007#2735

Did people forget we are talking about Centene? Its not like we are talking about SC Johnson Wax, or Sears or heck even a local bank. Centene needs a box. They deal with large government contracts, not consumers. They don't need to make a statement. I am pretty happy with the 32 floor curved design, if that is what it is. As for the rest of the tall buildings in BPV, if any, they are likely to be condo towers so don't hold your breath on the design. They are probably going to be pretty functional in nature with many balcony overhangs, especially on the south side.



If we are going to get a new, really artsy looking downtown tower anytime soon it is going to take either a large company wanting to make a statement (do we have any of those?) or a developer that is looking to sell space by creating a buzz. The MW Tower would have fell in this second category, but we see how well that turned out.



Maybe in a few years. Now, I am just happy with the addition to the skyline.

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PostDec 14, 2007#2736

Gimmicky architecture does nothing for me. Give me a classic, tasteful, well-executed design any day. Sure, pushing the envelope a bit would be nice, but let's not get carried away.

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PostDec 14, 2007#2737

This is way more than twisting boxes though isn't it... the curvature seems to match an arch leg, and it's triangular, I love it. Scoot it east some or twist it so we'll still be able to see the old courthouse from behind home plate and down the first base line and I'd be elated.

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PostDec 14, 2007#2738

I was looking at the Centene rendering. The floor heights look really tall. I think that will help to make up for the lack of actual floors. Should bring some good balance along with the rest of BPV.

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PostDec 14, 2007#2739

FWIW, I've heard rumors that Centene will scrap there IT department and outsource all of it to Accenture. Has anyone else heard this?

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PostDec 14, 2007#2740

datawhse wrote:FWIW, I've heard rumors that Centene will scrap there IT department and outsource all of it to Accenture. Has anyone else heard this?


They'll regret it: Accenture is a bunch of raving morons. Most of their employees are fresh out of college and are more worried about getting drunk and farking each other. I've never been impressed with their work. Plus they always try and pass the buck when things go wrong.

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PostDec 14, 2007#2741

dweebe wrote:They'll regret it: Accenture is a bunch of raving morons. Most of their employees are fresh out of college and are more worried about getting drunk and farking each other. I've never been impressed with their work. Plus they always try and pass the buck when things go wrong.


Are they hiring? :wink:

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PostDec 14, 2007#2742

dweebe wrote:
datawhse wrote:FWIW, I've heard rumors that Centene will scrap there IT department and outsource all of it to Accenture. Has anyone else heard this?


Most of their employees are fresh out of college and are more worried about getting drunk and farking each other.


I'm 25 years out of college, and I'm still more interested in those things.

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PostDec 14, 2007#2743

DeBaliviere wrote:
dweebe wrote:They'll regret it: Accenture is a bunch of raving morons. Most of their employees are fresh out of college and are more worried about getting drunk and farking each other. I've never been impressed with their work. Plus they always try and pass the buck when things go wrong.


Are they hiring? :wink:


Do we need an IT background to apply? Drinking, farking, and passing the buck when things go wrong?



Sounds like my kind of place. 8)

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PostDec 15, 2007#2744

I really wished we would have something that would have really stood out like the pic I found. However, I will take the current renderings over The Ballpark Crater.

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PostDec 24, 2007#2745

When is something going to happen already? We've waited two years and still NOTHING.

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PostDec 24, 2007#2746

STLgasm wrote:When is something going to happen already? We've waited two years and still NOTHING.
Eh, management resources are constrained while they look for steroids that won't be detected and stock up on clubhouse vodka from Dirt Cheap. I don't see why LaRussa is still coaching. He earned a DUI in spring training, setting the tone for one of his players to off himself a month later while DUI. Additionally, the Mitchell steroid report was a joke. He's a baseball-insider, Director of the Red Sox and friend of Bill Selig. MLB is starting to sicken me. The Ballpark Village swamp is diseased just like the rest of MLB is.

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PostDec 24, 2007#2747

innov8ion wrote:
STLgasm wrote:When is something going to happen already? We've waited two years and still NOTHING.
Eh, management resources are constrained while they look for steroids that won't be detected and stock up on clubhouse vodka from Dirt Cheap. I don't see why LaRussa is still coaching. He earned a DUI in spring training, setting the tone for one of his players to off himself a month later while DUI. Additionally, the Mitchell steroid report was a joke. He's a baseball-insider, Director of the Red Sox and friend of Bill Selig. MLB is starting to sicken me. The Ballpark Village swamp is diseased just like the rest of MLB is.


^calm down, dude...it's not life or death.

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PostDec 24, 2007#2748

I'm calm, but baseball has lost its integrity. This ain't good for the Cardinals and St. Louis.

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PostDec 24, 2007#2749

Did baseball ever really have any integrity? Not like this stuff just came up last year...



But let's not get off topic.

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PostDec 24, 2007#2750

innov8ion wrote:I'm calm, but baseball has lost its integrity. This ain't good for the Cardinals and St. Louis.


Wow! nothing close to my take on the subject. You are in the minority with your opinions. This is bad for st. louis or the cardinals.

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