JuiceInDogtown wrote:I don't think anybody is making a wage running this forum 40 hours a week.
That would be a great job, but it doesn't exist.
Yes, I am working on doing something, but the problem from the host is that the server can't handle it, and it would take a lot of money and load balancing between two servers. I've seen several forums have this problem. Most of the problem actually comes from guest users, not registered members.
I am working on doing something, but the problem from the host is that the server can't handle it, and it would take a lot of money and load balancing between two servers. I've seen several forums have this problem. Most of the problem actually comes from guest users, not registered members.
based on your vague understanding of this, its no wonder the problems cannot be fixed. blaming the users?? comon.. the non-answers the admins keep giving make it seem like they're more interested in keeping the status quo, like they're afraid they'll lose their admin rights, even though no ones suggesting that. innov8ion offered knowledgeable help, and was rebuffed.. personally, i stopped posting here months ago, large photo posts are tedious enough without having to deal with the slowdowns and timeouts, not to mention i would actually like people to be able to see them..
so what's the size of the database & what is the current monthly bandwidth used? there are lotsofsitesthat host phpbb. so get your numbers, shop around, discuss it here & keep it all transparent, and plenty of people would "donate", or make it ad supported. bfd. and don't forget who you bitches *work* for, don't like it? plenty of other people will volunteer to be admins.
shinpickle wrote:the non-answers the admins keep giving make it seem like they're more interested in keeping the status quo, like they're afraid they'll lose their admin rights, even though no ones suggesting that.
I can assure you that nothing could be further from the truth. If I haven't posted anything on this topic, it's because I have practically no technical knowledge whatsoever.
shinpickle wrote:based on your vague understanding of this, its no wonder the problems cannot be fixed. blaming the users?? comon..
He didn't blame the users direct actions. He's saying that the current server cannot handle the amount of unregistered user traffic. I too have seen that happen on other boards, and they usually block unregistered users or cap it at a fixed number until they can get moved to a new server.
Maybe you missed the string of posts about how the true owner of this site is MIA, I'd imagine they don't have all of the server passwords and additionally do not have the funds to move this forum. On top of that they do not own this site urbanstlouis does. If he is MIA then they have their proverbial hands tied. Innov8ion was not rebuffed, my guess is they are not authorized to give him access to the server since it is not their property.
People attacking the mods need to get a clue on what the true issue is here.
MattnSTL wrote:Yes, I am working on doing something, but the problem from the host is that the server can't handle it, and it would take a lot of money and load balancing between two servers. I've seen several forums have this problem. Most of the problem actually comes from guest users, not registered members.
In the most facetious (as opposed to self-entitled or preachy) manner possible, I ask if the board is running on a 486.
At the time I write this I see there are 51 people browsing this board, all but maybe 6 being unregistered users, and the response time is kind of choppy at the moment.
phpBB should be able to handle many times that number on a perfectly ordinary server, without the need for a server farm or load balancing. We're not talking thousands of visitors at once, or even a hundred.
Urban Elitist wrote:Maybe you missed the string of posts about how the true owner of this site is MIA
you mean this:
It's no longer his primary business. I'll post more later.
is there more I'm missing? so is this guy willing to change the DNS to point to a new host and provide someone FTP access, there isn't much more he has to do. or is he lost the rainforests of Bolivia or something.. i missed the string of posts..
1. Right, a mod who knows urbanstlouis can talk with him and ask if the database file can be obtained to transition to a different server with phpBB 3.x on it.
2. Run the database conversion script to convert from phpBB 2.x to 3.x.
3. Switch over DNS from the old to new host and voila.
Note: I have an existing server in a datacenter with a phpBB 3.0.2 folder waiting to be used. Here it is: http://digistic.com/forum/
Are we talking copyright issues here? The owner of this site is going to come back and sue for copying the database to a new host and server and using the name urbanstlouis?
jlblues wrote:Are we talking copyright issues here? The owner of this site is going to come back and sue for copying the database to a new host and server and using the name urbanstlouis?
The forum domain is urbanstl.com and not urbanstlouis.com. Perhaps he would let us keep the urbanstl.com domain for the forum's use. If not, maybe he would be gracious enough to setup a temporary redirect to a new domain.
Something to think about, which requires communication with urbanstlouis.
I could set it up so that we could embed youtube / google video in the forum as well...
It's on a linux box in a datacenter in which I've configured FastCGI and IonCube loader. What this means, to our nontechnical friends, is that this new server will much more easily support tougher traffic demands than what we have currently. In addition, we'd no longer have to worry about "bandwidth" issues because my account is virtually limitless. If you don't understand the technical issues, which is admittedly the case (not everyone is a geek), why don't you let the people that do understand it solve it?
All I need is the database and a tiny bit of cooperation from you and urbanstlouis. I'm sure all the forum participants would be quite appreciative. Admin privileges wouldn't change either. I don't care whether I'm a moderator or not. I'd just like to see performance improved.
Fast CGI wrote:
Instead of creating a new process for every request, FastCGI can use a single persistent process which handles many requests over its lifetime. Processing of multiple requests simultaneously is achieved either by using a single connection with internal multiplexing (ie. multiple requests over a single connection) and/or by using multiple connections. Many such processes can exist, something that can increase stability and scalability. FastCGI also allows programs to get the web server to do certain simple operations, like reading in a file, before the request is handed over. Environment information and page requests are sent from the web server to the process over a TCP connection (for remote processes) or Unix domain sockets (for local processes). Responses are returned from the process to the web server over the same connection. The connection may be closed at the end of a response, but the web server and the process are left standing.
Many web site administrators and programmers are finding that the separation of web applications from the web server in FastCGI (and the simpler SCGI) has many desirable advantages over embedded interpreters (mod_perl, mod_php, etc.). This separation allows server and application processes to be restarted independently — an important consideration for busy web sites. It also facilitates per-application security policies — important for ISPs and web hosting companies.
Communication is not the problem. I was in contact with him yesterday. A lot of it has to do with me having no time at the moment. I'm basically the contact point with him. He has a family and job and not a lot of time to get on here. But I'll try and get urbanstlouis to log on here and post. That would be a lot more helpful than me going back and forth with him and then this conversation separately. He is open to moving the forum to a different server which we had talked about with him a couple months back. Although he did recommend doing the upgrade to 3.0 after the move. Although he doesn't think a move would make a difference without a much more powerful server. Personally, I don't have a lot of technical knowledge when it comes to servers and traffic. He could provide info about the monthly bandwidth and all the other details. I would assume he has a decent server, but the only thing I know specifically about it is it runs Linux. The only other thought I have at the moment is that maybe something is wrong in the software and is causing the problem.
MattnSTL wrote:Communication is not the problem. I was in contact with him yesterday. A lot of it has to do with me having no time at the moment. I'm basically the contact point with him. He has a family and job and not a lot of time to get on here. But I'll try and get urbanstlouis to log on here and post. That would be a lot more helpful than me going back and forth with him and then this conversation separately. He is open to moving the forum to a different server which we had talked about with him a couple months back. Although he did recommend doing the upgrade to 3.0 after the move. Although he doesn't think a move would make a difference without a much more powerful server. Personally, I don't have a lot of technical knowledge when it comes to servers and traffic. He could provide info about the monthly bandwidth and all the other details. I would assume he has a decent server, but the only thing I know specifically about it is it runs Linux. The only other thought I have at the moment is that maybe something is wrong in the software and is causing the problem.
But according to another poster, SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION IS YOUR DAY JOB!
I was looking back at some stuff, and this started around December 19, 2007.
Urbanstlouis has also been invited to take a look at this thread. Personally, I'm OK with a move to a different server as long as it will be able to handle the site. Urban can work with that stuff.
To keep everyone in the know, we are in fact discussing a server move or any other fix that is suggested. I have been discussing this with inno, and we will figure out what should be done once urbanstlouis chimes in.
I have been trying to get some people to use forums I set up at the Circuit (direct link to the forums: here). It doesn't seem to have the slowness problem that this forum does and you're welcome to talk about pretty much anything. I don't even care if you swear. Of course bad behavior will be moderated but I take a much less restrictive approach to moderation than this forum. I haven't built out many categories there but I can do that if you like, feel free to offer suggestions. I lurk on this forum quite a bit and I enjoy reading your posts, but I just thought that I'd let you know that there are alternatives.
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MattnSTL wrote:To keep everyone in the know, we are in fact discussing a server move or any other fix that is suggested. I have been discussing this with inno, and we will figure out what should be done once urbanstlouis chimes in.