Work started in 2024 on refreshed interiors. This is just the next phase of work.dweebe wrote:The stupid proposed move to the clogged area by Reagan National is now totally dead as they start work on a $1 billion renovation in Washington DC.
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I think you're getting confused with the Charlotte Hornets who just finished refreshing their concourses.ldai_phs wrote: ↑5:27 PM - Aug 11Work started in 2024 on refreshed interiors. This is just the next phase of work.dweebe wrote:The stupid proposed move to the clogged area by Reagan National is now totally dead as they start work on a $1 billion renovation in Washington DC.
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From the arena websitedweebe wrote:I think you're getting confused with the Charlotte Hornets who just finished refreshing their concourses.ldai_phs wrote: ↑5:27 PM - Aug 11Work started in 2024 on refreshed interiors. This is just the next phase of work.dweebe wrote:The stupid proposed move to the clogged area by Reagan National is now totally dead as they start work on a $1 billion renovation in Washington DC.
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I was in DC last summer and walked past the arena a few times. There didn't appear to be anything new in there from the sidewalk.
We're both right.ldai_phs wrote: ↑6:15 PM - Aug 12From the arena websitedweebe wrote:I think you're getting confused with the Charlotte Hornets who just finished refreshing their concourses.ldai_phs wrote: ↑5:27 PM - Aug 11Work started in 2024 on refreshed interiors. This is just the next phase of work.
I was in DC last summer and walked past the arena a few times. There didn't appear to be anything new in there from the sidewalk.
Construction begins in December 2024 and will occur in six phases over three years. The Arena is scheduled to be complete in time for the 2027-28 NBA and NHL seasons.
Phase 1 (now – the conclusion of the 2024-25 season): Preparatory work begins with structural enabling tasks such as escalator pit installations and hydrotherapy slab construction. Fans will notice minimal disruptions as foundational work is largely behind the scenes.
Phase 2 (summer 2025): The enhancement of athlete spaces, including new locker rooms, a family lounge, and new media facilities. Additional upgrades include new escalators and initial modifications to fan seating areas. Premium fan experiences including the United Globe Club and Lounge and the Vaults will also be completed during this phase and available to fans in the 2025-26 season.
Phase 3 (during the 2025-26 season): Preparatory work begins for extensive exterior upgrades to include the new entrance on F Street, adding new restrooms, and improving concession spaces.
Phase 4 (summer 2026): Major exterior updates will begin, including the new façade and enhancements to the Gallery Place atrium. Interior renovations continue with revamped concession stands and upgraded suites.
Phase 5 (during the 2026-27 season): Club-level upgrades and further interior remodeling will be completed, including enhanced corridors and additional seating modifications. Fans can expect more premium amenities and improved navigation throughout the arena.
Phase 6 (summer 2027): With most major elements in place, construction addresses final interior improvements, including concessions, loge boxes, and bathrooms. The Gallery Place atrium will also be completed.
https://www.capitalonearena.com/transformation/faqs
That argument applies to Nashville or Austin or Raleigh or until recently Charlotte. All of the hot cities are smaller or used to be smaller and are landing the brands and teams and hotels and events that STL in theory should be competitive for.JaneJacobsGhost wrote:The fact that KC, which is 20% smaller than StL and has a laughable corporate HQ presence compared to StL, is being considered a more likely landing spot for an NBA franchise than StL is evidence of just how badly our regional leaders have screwed us for decades. What a joke.
Grizzlies are close to signing a new lease in MemphisStlAlex wrote:Seattle and Las Vegas are gonna get expansion teams, Grizzlies are destined for Nashville.
St. Louis' hopes will come down to the Pelicans or Trail Blazers in the long run.
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I see now. Makes no sense for the NBA but sure I guessldai_phs wrote:Grizzlies are close to signing a new lease in MemphisStlAlex wrote:Seattle and Las Vegas are gonna get expansion teams, Grizzlies are destined for Nashville.
St. Louis' hopes will come down to the Pelicans or Trail Blazers in the long run.
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I sincerely hope the bubble does burst and soon. After a lifetime of hearing about sports contracts which typically goes in one ear and out the other. It's just news and info. But, frankly, it's starting to get on my nerves. If Juan Soto gets a day off against a tough lefty, he's going to make more than 99% of people just sitting on his fat ass. The other component that is starting to get on my nerves is that NOBODY ever complains that sports contracts are "unfair" or it's not "equitable". We mostly know why but we won't go into that right now.framer wrote: ↑4:06 PM - Aug 27Seems impossible to turn off the public tap at this point. That goes for any sports venue anywhere. The bubble's gotta burst some time.
I don't see the bubble bursting until the tax code changes. Owners of these teams are eligible to take a 15-year straight-line amortization of the purchase price. Effectively allowing them to write off 90% of the the purchase and uses the loses elsewhere. Ballmer wrote off somthing like 700 million in 5 years after purchasing the Clippers.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑12:17 PM - 1 day agoI sincerely hope the bubble does burst and soon. After a lifetime of hearing about sports contracts which typically goes in one ear and out the other. It's just news and info. But, frankly, it's starting to get on my nerves. If Juan Soto gets a day off against a tough lefty, he's going to make more than 99% of people just sitting on his fat ass. The other component that is starting to get on my nerves is that NOBODY ever complains that sports contracts are "unfair" or it's not "equitable". We mostly know why but we won't go into that right now.framer wrote: ↑4:06 PM - Aug 27Seems impossible to turn off the public tap at this point. That goes for any sports venue anywhere. The bubble's gotta burst some time.
But the bubble I really, really want to see burst is the situation with college and Nil and the transfer portal. When I hear things like "Texas Tech should be pretty good this year, they invested $7m in their offensive line" it kind of makes me sick. I don't know where this money USED to go, it could have been going to increasingly useless professors and other dubious University things but it sure wasn't earmarked to get tuition under control. At any rate, none of this sustainable and my sincere hope is that all of this eventually destroys the entire increasingly useless University system in the US. Meanwhile, there is awesome slate of college football games today, enjoy.
I intentionally did not completely follow the Ballmer Clippers Kawhi Leonard situation but there were a few things that were apparent to me when I saw Ballmer speak about it. It didn't matter if he was fined a trillion dollars. The sheer terror in his eyes was thinking that his "peers" might realize that he has "lost a step" and might not be effective at "the gaming the system" any longer.STLAPTS wrote: ↑12:32 PM - 1 day agoI don't see the bubble bursting until the tax code changes. Owners of these teams are eligible to take a 15-year straight-line amortization of the purchase price. Effectively allowing them to write off 90% of the the purchase and uses the loses elsewhere. Ballmer wrote off somthing like 700 million in 5 years after purchasing the Clippers.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑12:17 PM - 1 day agoI sincerely hope the bubble does burst and soon. After a lifetime of hearing about sports contracts which typically goes in one ear and out the other. It's just news and info. But, frankly, it's starting to get on my nerves. If Juan Soto gets a day off against a tough lefty, he's going to make more than 99% of people just sitting on his fat ass. The other component that is starting to get on my nerves is that NOBODY ever complains that sports contracts are "unfair" or it's not "equitable". We mostly know why but we won't go into that right now.framer wrote: ↑4:06 PM - Aug 27Seems impossible to turn off the public tap at this point. That goes for any sports venue anywhere. The bubble's gotta burst some time.
But the bubble I really, really want to see burst is the situation with college and Nil and the transfer portal. When I hear things like "Texas Tech should be pretty good this year, they invested $7m in their offensive line" it kind of makes me sick. I don't know where this money USED to go, it could have been going to increasingly useless professors and other dubious University things but it sure wasn't earmarked to get tuition under control. At any rate, none of this sustainable and my sincere hope is that all of this eventually destroys the entire increasingly useless University system in the US. Meanwhile, there is awesome slate of college football games today, enjoy.
That is beside the point. US professional sports franchises provide outsized tax breaks to those purchasing them hence the run up in prices. Pending sales of the Seahawks at 9.5B and Lakers at 12.5B are tax plays for the groups buying them. They need the write off. I don't think its a bubble its a tax play.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑4:30 PM - 1 day agoI intentionally did not completely follow the Ballmer Clippers Kawhi Leonard situation but there were a few things that were apparent to me when I saw Ballmer speak about it. It didn't matter if he was fined a trillion dollars. The sheer terror in his eyes was thinking that his "peers" might realize that he has "lost a step" and might not be effective at "the gaming the system" any longer.STLAPTS wrote: ↑12:32 PM - 1 day agoI don't see the bubble bursting until the tax code changes. Owners of these teams are eligible to take a 15-year straight-line amortization of the purchase price. Effectively allowing them to write off 90% of the the purchase and uses the loses elsewhere. Ballmer wrote off somthing like 700 million in 5 years after purchasing the Clippers.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑12:17 PM - 1 day agoI sincerely hope the bubble does burst and soon. After a lifetime of hearing about sports contracts which typically goes in one ear and out the other. It's just news and info. But, frankly, it's starting to get on my nerves. If Juan Soto gets a day off against a tough lefty, he's going to make more than 99% of people just sitting on his fat ass. The other component that is starting to get on my nerves is that NOBODY ever complains that sports contracts are "unfair" or it's not "equitable". We mostly know why but we won't go into that right now.
But the bubble I really, really want to see burst is the situation with college and Nil and the transfer portal. When I hear things like "Texas Tech should be pretty good this year, they invested $7m in their offensive line" it kind of makes me sick. I don't know where this money USED to go, it could have been going to increasingly useless professors and other dubious University things but it sure wasn't earmarked to get tuition under control. At any rate, none of this sustainable and my sincere hope is that all of this eventually destroys the entire increasingly useless University system in the US. Meanwhile, there is awesome slate of college football games today, enjoy.
