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ldai_phs wrote: ↑

11:32 PM - 1 day ago

addxb2 wrote:

ldai_phs wrote:NBA is not going to allow a like for like relocation. STL will need either a mega renovation or a new arena.

I can’t find any evidence of this being a rule. Where both the NBA/NHL overlap regionally, 11 NBA arenas share with NHL and 4 have NBA and NHL specific arenas. Both Las Vegas and Seattle are expected to share arenas when the league expands.

NBA the league has to approve any relocations. I can 100% guarantee that they are not going to approve a move to an arena that isn’t first class or on the pathway to getting there.

Obviously they have to approve it and my initial post conceded a $300-500M renovation as realistic. NBA is requesting $600M for the arena in Portland which is more outdated than Enterprise. 

addxb2 wrote:

ldai_phs wrote: ↑

11:32 PM - 1 day ago

addxb2 wrote: I can’t find any evidence of this being a rule. Where both the NBA/NHL overlap regionally, 11 NBA arenas share with NHL and 4 have NBA and NHL specific arenas. Both Las Vegas and Seattle are expected to share arenas when the league expands.

NBA the league has to approve any relocations. I can 100% guarantee that they are not going to approve a move to an arena that isn’t first class or on the pathway to getting there.

Obviously they have to approve it and my initial post conceded a $300-500M renovation as realistic. NBA is requesting a $600M for the arena in Portland which is more outdated than Enterprise. 

League’s barrier to moving is much higher than staying.

ldai_phs wrote: ↑

11:41 PM - 1 day ago

addxb2 wrote:

ldai_phs wrote: ↑

11:32 PM - 1 day ago

NBA the league has to approve any relocations. I can 100% guarantee that they are not going to approve a move to an arena that isn’t first class or on the pathway to getting there.

Obviously they have to approve it and my initial post conceded a $300-500M renovation as realistic. NBA is requesting a $600M for the arena in Portland which is more outdated than Enterprise. 

League’s barrier to moving is much higher than staying.

Again, no written evidence of that. They do require a relocation market present a clearly superior long-term situation than the incumbent market which can be accomplished through varying degrees of facility control, real estate offerings, and revenue agreements. Both something the Blues would also enjoy renegotiating. 

StlAlex wrote: ↑

10:54 PM - 1 day ago

ldai_phs wrote:NBA is not going to allow a like for like relocation. STL will need either a mega renovation or a new arena.

This is kinda how I see it. I feel like Enterprise could be acceptable for a temporary stay, but I can't see a relocation happening without guarantees for a new arena.

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Same...NFL riverfront location?

Complete speculation on my part but is anyone concerned the Blues may look at Downtown chesterfield for a new arena in the near future? It would fit the trend for new NHL arenas (Atlanta and Dallas)

St. Louis getting an NBA team: 1%
St. Louis building a new arena just for NBA: 0.1%
Blues moving out of Downtown: 0.0001%