It’s a 3 sided park. Seems like it’s an opportunity to build the 4th side do fix most of those issues.dweebe wrote: ↑Sep 21, 2023
Is this a new announcement, or did I miss something?
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framer wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2024Is this a new announcement, or did I miss something?
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The info has been out there for awhile. Pretty sure this was always the plan. It just finally finished so they are showing the space off.
I just bought two tickets to Chicago Fire home opener against Cincinnati for $9 each. Boring team in an NFL stadium, bad for soccer! I’ll go for the vibes, a beer, and a hot dog.
I’ve also been wearing more city gear while walking around Chicago. I’ve only gotten support. Just yesterday a guy shouted from across the street, “Go St. Louis City!”
I agree.
Go CITY!
I’ve also been wearing more city gear while walking around Chicago. I’ve only gotten support. Just yesterday a guy shouted from across the street, “Go St. Louis City!”
I agree.
Go CITY!
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Better than going out to Bridgeport, at least!addxb2 wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2024I just bought two tickets to Chicago Fire home opener against Cincinnati for $9 each. Boring team in an NFL stadium, bad for soccer! I’ll go for the vibes, a beer, and a hot dog.
I’ve also been wearing more city gear while walking around Chicago. I’ve only gotten support. Just yesterday a guy shouted from across the street, “Go St. Louis City!”
I agree.
Go CITY!
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Stray Rescue markets 'prime' site next to Downtown West's CityPark
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2024/02/13/stray-rescue-soccer-citypark-downtown-west.html?cx_testId=40&cx_testVariant=cx_5&cx_artPos=1#cxrecs_sStray Rescue is marketing its Downtown West site, next to the CityPark soccer stadium, ahead of a move to Dutchtown.
Its broker said its 29,247-square-foot property, at 2320 Pine St., was being offered at $100 per square foot, or $2.9 million.
The property is about a block from CityPark, the home stadium for Major League Soccer franchise St. Louis City SC that officially opened last year. Stray Rescue's broker, David Biales of JLL, said the property represents "a prime redevelopment opportunity due to its close proximity" to CityPark.
Since the Stray Rescue animal shelter is a nonprofit, the property is currently tax-exempt.
Stray Rescue in 2022 said it would leave the downtown site in three to five years, depending how quickly money was raised in a capital campaign for a move to Dutchtown.
It purchased a warehouse at 4084 Bingham Ave. for $900,000.
The organization said in 2022 that planned developments in Downtown West, including parking garages and hotels, meant that it was "getting closed in with less and less green space to walk pups."
A Stray Rescue spokesperson didn't immediately respond to questions about how much has been raised for the capital campaign or when the organization might move.
Materials from the organization say the its new headquarters project could be completed over three phases and cost $20 million total.
Downtown West has seen some significant projects in addition to those from City SC. The Maggie O'Brien's restaurant at 2000 Market St. saw significant investment, and the first phase of a warehouse-to-apartments conversion, called The Victor, has opened at 1717 Olive St.
I am having a pinch me type of moment rewatching clips from yesterdays game. The energy is insane. It’s so clear that St. Louis City SC and City Park are going to do amazing things to downtown, the whole St. Louis brand, and probably MLS.
A privately funded stadium replaced an interstate ramp and is going to deliver every bit of economic value it promised. You love to see it.
I don’t think any of it could have happened without the NFL. I am nearly comfortable saying St. Louis is better because of the NFL.
Last thought. Consider the alternative in the 21st century. KC is being forced to decide whether or not to extend a sales tax. If it passes, they *get to* clear multiple blocks of buildings. All for a team which last year ranked 28 of 30 on attendance.
A privately funded stadium replaced an interstate ramp and is going to deliver every bit of economic value it promised. You love to see it.
I don’t think any of it could have happened without the NFL. I am nearly comfortable saying St. Louis is better because of the NFL.
Last thought. Consider the alternative in the 21st century. KC is being forced to decide whether or not to extend a sales tax. If it passes, they *get to* clear multiple blocks of buildings. All for a team which last year ranked 28 of 30 on attendance.
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Walking around Downtown West before and after the game was pretty incredible in terms of energy and pedestrian activity. It seems like many of the people down there for the game hadn’t been to the area at all until the soccer team came around either.addxb2 wrote:I am having a pinch me type of moment rewatching clips from yesterdays game. The energy is insane. It’s so clear that St. Louis City SC and City Park are going to do amazing things to downtown, the whole St. Louis brand, and probably MLS.
A privately funded stadium replaced an interstate ramp and is going to deliver every bit of economic value it promised. You love to see it.
I don’t think any of it could have happened without the NFL. I am nearly comfortable saying St. Louis is better because of the NFL.
Last thought. Consider the alternative in the 21st century. KC is being forced to decide whether or not to extend a sales tax. If it passes, they *get to* clear multiple blocks of buildings. All for a team which last year ranked 28 of 30 on attendance.
Standing outside the stadium on the West side and looking down Olive towards downtown really struck me as well. The Victor is quite impressive when lit up.
Debaliviere91 wrote:Walking around Downtown West before and after the game was pretty incredible in terms of energy and pedestrian activity. It seems like many of the people down there for the game hadn’t been to the area at all until the soccer team came around either.addxb2 wrote:I am having a pinch me type of moment rewatching clips from yesterdays game. The energy is insane. It’s so clear that St. Louis City SC and City Park are going to do amazing things to downtown, the whole St. Louis brand, and probably MLS.
A privately funded stadium replaced an interstate ramp and is going to deliver every bit of economic value it promised. You love to see it.
I don’t think any of it could have happened without the NFL. I am nearly comfortable saying St. Louis is better because of the NFL.
Last thought. Consider the alternative in the 21st century. KC is being forced to decide whether or not to extend a sales tax. If it passes, they *get to* clear multiple blocks of buildings. All for a team which last year ranked 28 of 30 on attendance.
Standing outside the stadium on the North side and looking down Olive towards downtown really struck me as well. The Victor is quite impressive when lit up.
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City SC (its owners) have much grander plans for downtown west....don't be surprised to see them buy up properties.
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Hopefully the currently planned projects can kick off soon, the constant presence of a tower crane or two around the stadium for the next five years would do wonders for the perception of downtown
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At least the new construction stuff by AHM, minus the tower, is out for bid. So that’ll at least get rolling soon.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Feb 22, 2024Hopefully the currently planned projects can kick off soon, the constant presence of a tower crane or two around the stadium for the next five years would do wonders for the perception of downtown
When do you think we’ll see some concepts?dbInSouthCity wrote:City SC (its owners) have much grander plans for downtown west....don't be surprised to see them buy up properties.
Have you heard anything about the Pear Tree property?
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Man... that's exciting.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 22, 2024City SC (its owners) have much grander plans for downtown west....don't be surprised to see them buy up properties.
Another parking garage, huh?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 22, 2024City SC (its owners) have much grander plans for downtown west....don't be surprised to see them buy up properties.
I said this before and it needs to be said again; one thing STL has done right was putting the stadiums downtown. Not in suburbia like other cities have done!
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chartreuse with TWO pope balconies!Another parking garage, huh?
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Full city blocks near MLS stadium marketed for sale
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https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2024/02/28/properties-mls-soccer-stadium-sale-redevelopment.htmlA developer is offering two sets of properties for sale near the Major League Soccer stadium that could allow for ground-up development.
Two of the roughly 8 acres in properties are vacant sites about a block north of CityPark stadium, the $461 million home of the St. Louis City SC soccer team that opened last year when the new MLS franchise kicked off its first season. Another set of sites is across the street from those properties, farther north from the stadium.
St. Louis-based Salient Realty is marketing the two sets of properties, both owned by a series of business entities connected to either Mark Abbott or Matthew Abbott of Kansas City-based Abbott Properties, city and state records show. The asking prices for the properties have not been disclosed.
The properties are unique in several ways, said Salient Realty President Garen Lafser, the broker for the properties. They offer the opportunity for ground-up development, rare in the Downtown West area surrounding the new stadium, he said. For an ambitious developer, the four sites could serve as a series of contiguous properties that are separated by streets but would run from Washington Avenue to Martin Luther King Boulevard. The two properties closest to the stadium start at Washington Avenue, and the second group of properties are situated between Delmar and Martin Luther King boulevards.
Each of the four primary sites could be sold separately or together, the broker said. They are being marketed in two sets, with the two sites closest to the stadium offered together and the properties between Delmar and Martin Luther King boulevards offered together.
The properties closest to the stadium, both vacant, are:Both properties currently serve as surface parking lots, Lafser said. The total 2.22 acres would be the sites in the offering most geared to a possible mixed-use development due to proximity to the stadium and location on the Washington Avenue corridor, the broker said.
- 2107 Washington Ave., owned by Collaboration Place St. Louis Real Estate LLC, linked to Matthew Abbott of Abbott Properties.
- 2118 Delmar Blvs., owned by a limited liability company registered to Mark Abbott and last purchased in June 2019 for $370,000.
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They should be leaning their marketing heavier into proximity to the future Green line. Where Jefferson and the Central Corridor intersect will probably be our next building boom.
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Developers look to rename part of downtown near soccer stadium
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2024/03/12/developers-downtown-city-commons-st-louis-soccer.html?cx_testId=40&cx_testVariant=cx_5&cx_artPos=0#cxrecs_sChances are good that you've been to City Commons.
You've been there if you've visited CityPark, the home stadium of Major League Soccer team St. Louis City SC. You've been there if you had a beer at the nearby Schlafly Tap Room or tea at the London Tea Room. If you live in The Victor or The Draper, two of downtown's newest apartment complexes, you live in City Commons.
Even if you've been to City Commons, you might not realize it. That's because, until recently, the unofficial neighborhood didn't exist. The group of developers that coined the new name has extensive plans to change that. If all goes as planned, within a few years visitors will immediately recognize City Commons as the new name for the blocks that surround CityPark, which opened in late 2022.
As $1 billion of new development opened or is planned around the $460 million soccer stadium, and blocks of properties ripe for redevelopment are going on the market, the developers behind some of the biggest projects in the area hope to capitalize on its momentum by marketing it as a distinct district centered around the stadium of City SC, which kicked off its second MLS season last month.
"St. Louis people, just in general, like to identify where they're going with a neighborhood brand or an area," said Jassen Johnson, a St. Louis-based developer who is one of the leaders of the effort. "Just saying that you’re downtown, that can be a million places. But if you're saying you’re going to City Commons or Lafayette Square, Central West End, everybody can very quickly narrow it down. You know exactly where that is. That's what works in the minds of people in St. Louis."
Along the way, the developers have tried to figure out how to build and brand a neighborhood, using other successful examples within and outside St. Louis, and how to encourage people to recognize and use the new name, and want to live there. To encourage a 24-hour “live, work and play” type of district that lives up to the name, the developers are analyzing data to see what they need to bring in new people. Along with 1,000 new residential units, the area currently has eight to 10 new restaurants or bars, more than 36,000 square feet of office space and two new hotels under construction, according to the group’s research.
“You can really build a story about where the district is now, where it’s going to be in the next year, and where we think it’s going to be in the next five years, and help curate the district based off of that data,” Johnson said. “We don’t need five barbecue places in the Commons. We don’t need six coffee houses.”
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^ Sounds as pretentious as SoDoSoPa. Why not just call it Mill Creek?
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They’re afraid of calling it what it is: Downtown.
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Developers don't get to name things in St. Louis. We still drive down 40 to get to the Kiel Center.
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Stl PR - Port Authority approves tax increase at CityPark to pay for water cleanup
Stl PR - Port Authority approves tax increase at CityPark to pay for water cleanup
https://www.stlpr.org/economy-business/ ... er-cleanup“This just happens to be contaminated water because all the karst springs underneath the city proper are contaminated.”
The spring releases more than 100,000 gallons of contaminated water daily. The pollution comes from fuel tanks abandoned decades ago beneath the city.







