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symphonicpoet wrote:

pop_scientist wrote: ↑

Jan 12, 2023

dbInSouthCity wrote:If you recall- these bays were sold us “pop up retail” but if you look what’s behind the bays right now- parking spots….

Dual use…pop-up on game day, parking spaces the other 348 days of the year.


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So they're going to give up the parking spaces on the seventeen days when they would generate the most revenue, but give up the retail on the 348 days when there probably won't be enough demand to fill the garage anyway? Brilliant!

Up to them to decide…if the return on the pop-up shop is more than the parking spot, then I guess you have your answer for any day of the year.

…at the end of the day, it’s just flex space

Nice to see an abundance of bike racks, that will be heavily used.


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I'm curious: Do such garages typically charge for the bike spots, or are they free on a first-come basis? 

^ free 

The dispensary at 20th and Olive is supposedly opening Jan 27.

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/first ... -st-louis/

eee123 wrote: ↑

Jan 21, 2023

The dispensary at 20th and Olive is supposedly opening Jan 27.

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/first ... -st-louis/

Kind of crazy that the first recreational dispensary will be across the street from police headquarters. Also, I thought dispensaries weren't expected to open until late February -- glad to see that's not the case.

I imagine that's not by coincidence. Not even in a FTP way, but more for security. There have been a couple news articles over the last year talking about dispensaries elsewhere in the country getting ransacked  continually and having to hire heavily armed security. While it's no guarantee, I can imagine the logic behind this location was that it will be less likely to be robbed right next to police headquarters covered in cameras.

I don’t know how that location opens Jan 27th, it doesn’t even have siding on top 1/3rd of the building

^Sweetness! (Imagine what could have been if they'd left the row on Olive!)

But seriously, that really is quite the transformation, and all minor digs aside, well done to them.

symphonicpoet wrote: ↑

Feb 13, 2023

^Sweetness! (Imagine what could have been if they'd left the row on Olive!)

But seriously, that really is quite the transformation, and all minor digs aside, well done to them.

Sc4mayor, thanks for posting the before and after from above.   have to agree with symphonicpoet.

A couple takeaways.   LHM truly has a golden opportunity in all this as I think a few have noted in various posts.   While I can see LHM snagging Emerson as part of their ever expanding Wesport campus it would be awesome if somehow they could get either Emerson and or Enterprise to have a presence in dowtown  Heck, I think LHM Union Station, or BPV and or 909 Chestnut vertical city would be a good fit for Emerson.   I think a corporate HQ with strong WFH presence is also looking for areas that can offer hotel rooms, residence inn type lodging and eatery options.   In other words, campus is being redefined.  

The other takeaway and getting back to MLS Stadium & District.   The practice fields truly setup for future development.  Maybe the truck, underground access will become a little odd down the road but I wouldn't doubt if the team has a long term vision of relocating the practice fields and facility at some point in time.  Not tomorrow but say a decade down the road..  

The team seems incredibly proud of their downtown complex that includes training fields, so I'm not so sure that they will be used for development down the line. 

However, how hard would it be for opposing teams to book a room at the Fairfield or Drury Inn for a SpyGate-type situation? 

^^ I can understand your point but give it 10, 15, 20 years when things start show wear & tear and the property value might worth a whole lot more.   Taylor family didn't get where they are at by staying with status  quo over time.    Heck, they got a ready made plot of property that can incorporate C-suite views overlooking the playing field and the iconic Arch.   Think big in the future 

^^ I'm not suggesting that a team would stay there; I'm suggesting that you could observe St. Louis City SC practices from those hotels. 

sc4mayor wrote: ↑

Feb 12, 2023

Thank goodness the first proposal was voted down, we got a better deal financially and design wise 

Good things happen when you bet on yourself. StL (the city and the broader region) should do it more often.

I think the real driver would be a change in staff for the team. Having the training facility there is seen as an element of team culture as much as a convenience. I think getting rid of it would negatively impact recruiting young players.

^ yes, invite only soft opening last night and tonight, ill be there at 5:30