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Yes, I can see the stadium roofs and also NGA site to the north.

Should add that my rent includes att internet and uverse, parking in the garage, gym and only bill I have is ameren but it’s always low, especially in the winter since I’m on the 19th floor. It’s always 72 in here and my heat is never on.

Best part is my 19th floor unit is the only unit on this floor because rest of the doors on the floor are bedroom floors from the 2 floor units on the 20th, so I have the entire elevator lobby to myself. I can put a couch out there, in bad weather i take all my workout equipment out there for workouts if the gym is busy

dbInSouthCity wrote:

chris fuller wrote: ↑

Feb 06, 2022

2000.00 dollars a month for rent?? LOL if it was not so seriously sad

I pay $2500 and this view is worth it (plus 2000 sq and 3 restrooms to pick from)

There are days I sure miss that view. Price is well worth it at park pacific.

framer wrote: ↑

Feb 06, 2022

Chris, you seem to go through this every few months. I hope you return as you have the other times.  

I don't think this forum is any worse than most; actually, it's probably much better, more respectful and certainly more knowledgeable than most. You really can't run away from people or opinions that annoy you. Trust me, they'll be around for your entire life. Better to just develop a thick skin, roll your eyes, and learn how to grin and bear it. 

See you on your other sites. 

Yep, it seems we see this overreaction every few months. It's just a big circle, and everyone knows it.

If anyone wants to play in the real estate game, you better grow thick skin really quickly, but also be able to understand where people are coming from and empathize with viewpoints that maybe don't make much sense in reality, but are what you have to overcome. Especially if you are doing public facing activities. No one is going to have a positive opinion of a project or developer if the people they see representing them on the internet, or even worse in public meetings, is nothing but defensive, secretive, and condescending. Convince people that projects are good by producing a positive track-record and taking constructive feedback. It's a lot harder to fix a bad reputation than it is to build and maintain a good reputation from the start. Take it from someone that has spent plenty of time on the community member, developer, and government funder sides of things.

In terms of new build construction and tenant complaints, Lux Living (in all of its LLC iterations) does seem to be something of an outlier. Citizen Park, The Euclid, Chroma/Hue, One Hundred, The Orion all have tenant reviews on Google that, with few exceptions, are glowing. One Hundred has some oddball reviews that aren't really relevant that skew it downward.

I suppose it's always a risk moving into a brand new building, which may have some growing pains, but Lux Living seems to be a step below almost all of its peers. Although The Chelsea gets a 4.5 on Google Reviews, so who knows.

typical  Haute bourgeoisie

urban_dilettante wrote: ↑

Feb 06, 2022

^^ jayarebee, is he homeless? sure he's not one of the construction workers or maybe a City employee taking a nap? asking because the bright yellow jacket looks high-vis... like issued gear.

He definitely wasn’t a construction worker or city employee. The property manager got security to remove him from the building shortly after the pic was taken.

^ ok, gotcha.

gone corporate wrote: ↑

Feb 07, 2022

@jayarebee Recommend that the best solution for you may be for you & other tenants to attempt to claw back previously paid rent. You can note that the contract between you & the building include conditions that, by the building not being completed on time, are not in existence and have not been in existence during the time of your lease agreement. Therefore, they have failed to live up to their end of the agreement, and it would be reasonable to have a portion of the rent returned to you. Important: I am not an attorney, and maybe you should have a conversation with one (but not an expensive one). Welcome to STL, hope your time here gets better. 

The implications of the unavailability of building-wide amenities (which was the case for most building for many months during the worst of the pandemic) is likely very different than the habitability and safety of an individual apartment that is leased. Amenities are really just a marketing tool to get people to rent the actual apartments.

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑

Feb 07, 2022

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Feb 05, 2022

The shadows go deep with me, just remember that.

I am taking this as a threat.  Be gone, goon. 

I doubt that he meant it as a threat. But he knows a lot of industry insiders thanks to his website and connections. There's a lot that he knows and doesn't say. I would guess that's what he means. I don't always like the way he says things and we often disagree, but I'm pretty sure he means well and he's contributed a lot to this forum and this city, particularly for someone so young. Chris is many things, but he's no goon. Just a guy trying to learn development and journalism. I genuinely hope he'll come back, even if that does mean he'll eventually say something that gets my dander up. Again. (I expect it's mutual.) We all get a little too emotional about this stuff sometimes. We care. It's why we're here. But he's no troll. We have those. They're not Chris. (Has anyone invented a good troll spray yet?)

Not surprising, we are left with an unfinished back side of Tribeca so guessing that is typical of their attention to detail and commitment to their city and residents.


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tztag wrote:Not surprising, we are left with an unfinished back side of Tribeca so guessing that is typical of their attention to detail and commitment to their city and residents.


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It’s unfinished? I know it’s an ugly blank grey wall. Was it supposed to be something else?


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^ no they finished it. but it sat for a long time with exposed Tyveck (?) flapping in the wind and then if I recall correctly they finished it with non-matching panels or panels that were different from the design or something along those lines.

symphonicpoet wrote: ↑

Feb 07, 2022

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑

Feb 07, 2022

chriss752 wrote: ↑

Feb 05, 2022

The shadows go deep with me, just remember that.

I am taking this as a threat.  Be gone, goon. 

I doubt that he meant it as a threat. But he knows a lot of industry insiders thanks to his website and connections. There's a lot that he knows and doesn't say. I would guess that's what he means. I don't always like the way he says things and we often disagree, but I'm pretty sure he means well and he's contributed a lot to this forum and this city, particularly for someone so young. Chris is many things, but he's no goon. Just a guy trying to learn development and journalism. I genuinely hope he'll come back, even if that does mean he'll eventually say something that gets my dander up. Again. (I expect it's mutual.) We all get a little too emotional about this stuff sometimes. We care. It's why we're here. But he's no troll. We have those. They're not Chris. (Has anyone invented a good troll spray yet?)

Agree SP, no reason to call a poster like Chris a goon. Hoping that was sarcasm.

^No offense, but all of this has gradually gotten out of hand, and Chris didn't push it there by himself. Jayarebee has a legitimate beef, and has to live in the middle of this mess, so there's more excuse to be angry than the rest of us. And Chris really does know the people jayarebee called out. He's in a position to have a firsthand opinion of them unrelated to their management prowess. So he's also got more excuse to be emotional. Doesn't make what either of them said about the other right, but even if it did what you said is still across the line. I think we all need to take a step back and treat each other like human beings and can the angry crap.

Now, let's get back to discussing our city and how to make it better.

^ No offense, but he was out of line. I hope he has his issues sorted out by time he comes back. 

^None taken. We all need to step back and sort our issues out. I don't think there's much call for calling each other things like grifter, shill, or goon. I don't think any of them are correct and they surely don't help the timbre of the conversation. All parties have made real contributions and serious points. I completely believe the problems jayarebee raised are real and need to be addressed. I can believe the named owners are learning and striving to address them. I can believe they still have work to do. I fully believe Chris is correct that their properties aren't the only problem properties in town. I wholeheartedly believe tenants need better protections and landowners need greater accountability. All of this stuff can be simultaneously true. I think there's real value in the sorts of conversations that can come out of this thread; we can work towards solutions and learn from them. I also think we're more likely to see benefits if we can manage not to call each other names. That's hard because we care and get invested in our positions. But the potential for good is worth the effort.

But I'm preaching. Don't mind me too much. Just trying to dial things back a bit so we can get back to fixing our fair city.

Hi all.

I've looked at this website for a while with Chris and am a friend of his. A few things about his outburst the other night and subsequent actions.

1. I was with him when he was writing those posts. He originally wanted to post some things that would've classified his posts as "doxing". I told him not to do that as it wasn't his character or place to do that. He instead went with the path we all know he chose.
2. We argued over the posts afterwards and he deactivated his account because he couldn't figure out how to delete it. I told him it wasn't wise to delete it since it wasn't clear if the pictures and posts he made over the past several years would disappear or not. This website can act as an archive for those things.
3. At my request, he did send the comments of issues at the Hudson over to the correct people at Lux with the hope of having those issues fixed by management. He hasn't informed me of an update but did hint that he expects property rollouts to go differently in the future. Chris retains his connections there as he does with multiple other developers and architects in St. Louis, Kansas City and Memphis.
4. Chris will continue to play a role in certain projects throughout the St. Louis and Kansas City metros, just his involvement will be secretive. 
5. Chris informed me that he has read over this thread since the other night. He's not angry at the different positions made by users on this forum anymore but he is not planning to return anytime soon. He feels that the damage done is enough to keep him away from here for a while. Besides, he's in the process of transferring colleges and moving away due to a better educational opportunity outside of St. Louis. As some can imagine, a move like that can be stressful especially when you're balancing full-time college coursework and two jobs. 
6. Lastly, he will continue to maintain his Facebook group and blog and hopes to interact with a few users from this forum in the future.

We'll see how things go. For now, he's not showing any remorse from his actions but it's really hard to tell how Chris feels sometimes. He's a king at hiding his emotions but when they come out, they come out swinging (mostly anger and frustration). Emotions like joy, sadness, disgust, and being anxious are clearer.

Anyways, my name is Mark and I've known Chris since grade school. We're close and see each other as brothers. I have looked into living at a Lux/STLCitywide property before but have stayed away from them. Not because of the management issues, but because they weren't convenient enough for my liking. I call a small apartment in South City home and have a Husky named Comet. I look forward to participating in this forum as some good discussions are had often.

MTaylorSTL76 wrote: ↑

Feb 09, 2022

Hi all.

I've looked at this website for a while with Chris and am a friend of his. A few things about his outburst the other night and subsequent actions.

1. I was with him when he was writing those posts. He originally wanted to post some things that would've classified his posts as "doxing". I told him not to do that as it wasn't his character or place to do that. He instead went with the path we all know he chose.
2. We argued over the posts afterwards and he deactivated his account because he couldn't figure out how to delete it. I told him it wasn't wise to delete it since it wasn't clear if the pictures and posts he made over the past several years would disappear or not. This website can act as an archive for those things.
3. At my request, he did send the comments of issues at the Hudson over to the correct people at Lux with the hope of having those issues fixed by management. He hasn't informed me of an update but did hint that he expects property rollouts to go differently in the future. Chris retains his connections there as he does with multiple other developers and architects in St. Louis, Kansas City and Memphis.
4. Chris will continue to play a role in certain projects throughout the St. Louis and Kansas City metros, just his involvement will be secretive. 
5. Chris informed me that he has read over this thread since the other night. He's not angry at the different positions made by users on this forum anymore but he is not planning to return anytime soon. He feels that the damage done is enough to keep him away from here for a while. Besides, he's in the process of transferring colleges and moving away due to a better educational opportunity outside of St. Louis. As some can imagine, a move like that can be stressful especially when you're balancing full-time college coursework and two jobs. 
6. Lastly, he will continue to maintain his Facebook group and blog and hopes to interact with a few users from this forum in the future.

We'll see how things go. For now, he's not showing any remorse from his actions but it's really hard to tell how Chris feels sometimes. He's a king at hiding his emotions but when they come out, they come out swinging (mostly anger and frustration). Emotions like joy, sadness, disgust, and being anxious are clearer.

Anyways, my name is Mark and I've known Chris since grade school. We're close and see each other as brothers. I have looked into living at a Lux/STLCitywide property before but have stayed away from them. Not because of the management issues, but because they weren't convenient enough for my liking. I call a small apartment in South City home and have a Husky named Comet. I look forward to participating in this forum as some good discussions are had often.

Someone doesn't want to post. That's okay. No big deal. Back to 310 DeBaliviere.
Hopefully Lux Living improves their construction and management issues as the whole DeBaliviere corridor is really starting to take shape.

^I personally hope that black building at Delmar and DeBaliviere is next. It's in need of some serious love.

^The one with the textured blocks? Yeah, that's a gorgeous old building and we don't have many examples of that device around here. Thanks for posting, Mark. And welcome aboard.