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PostAug 22, 2007#476

I think it could be divided into two categories: becoming an icon, or use of the icon. This high-rise isn't going to be an icon in its own right, but you could accuse it of the use of an icon (being a high-rise, and the wedge).

On a larger scale, chicago's skyline is iconic of that city, and aside from a few case studies like the sears tower, the whole is larger than the sum of its parts. That's when it becomes iconic. I personally have no problem with that; I'd love for us to be on Yahoo's 10 coolest skylines, at number 7 or something. My critique, ostensibly, of this building is it's use of the icon, as mentioned earlier. The wedge gives the building coolness points, but it also runs the risk of lumping the building into the latest fads category, again at #7.

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PostAug 23, 2007#477

trent wrote:Paris, no coastline, on a major river.



London, no coastline, on a major river.



St. Louis...yeah, you see where I'm going.


London: Capital of Great Britain

Paris: Capital of France

St. Louis: Capital of . . . . . .

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PostAug 23, 2007#478

Grover wrote:
trent wrote:Paris, no coastline, on a major river.

London, no coastline, on a major river.

St. Louis...yeah, you see where I'm going.
London: Capital of Great Britain

Paris: Capital of France

St. Louis: Capital of . . . . . .
London: Thames - tidal river

Paris: Seine - 80 ft elev. with little flow and easily regulated

St. Louis: Mississippi - 30 to 50 ft change in flow height

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PostAug 23, 2007#479

Mill204 wrote:
Grover wrote:
trent wrote:Paris, no coastline, on a major river.

London, no coastline, on a major river.

St. Louis...yeah, you see where I'm going.
London: Capital of Great Britain

Paris: Capital of France

St. Louis: Capital of . . . . . .
London: Thames - tidal river

Paris: Seine - 80 ft elev. with little flow and easily regulated

St. Louis: Mississippi - 30 to 50 ft change in flow height


London: William the Conqueror

Paris: Napoleon Bonaparte

St. Louis: Francis Slay



(this is fun)

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PostAug 23, 2007#480

London: 11.8 Mil

Paris: 11.1

St. Louis: 2.8



(This is retarded)

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PostAug 23, 2007#481

^ Thanks for playing :twisted:

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PostAug 23, 2007#482

Grover wrote:
trent wrote:Paris, no coastline, on a major river.



London, no coastline, on a major river.



St. Louis...yeah, you see where I'm going.


London: Capital of Great Britain

Paris: Capital of France

St. Louis: Capital of . . . . . .


Hoosierland? 8)

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PostAug 23, 2007#483

newstl2020 wrote:London: 11.8 Mil

Paris: 11.1

St. Louis: 2.8



(This is retarded)


Actually (from Wikepdia):



London: 8.5 M

Paris: 2.1 M

STL: 0.35 M



We do have the coolest flag though.

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PostAug 23, 2007#484

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
London: Capital of Great Britain

Paris: Capital of France

St. Louis: Capital of . . . . . .



Hoosierland? 8)


Maybe, but you know Indianapolis will fight us for that honor. 8)

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PostAug 24, 2007#485

I wonder if Scrutinizer has ever made it through an entire day without once using the word "hoosier"?

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PostAug 24, 2007#486

Doubt it.

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PostAug 24, 2007#488

Framer wrote:I wonder if Scrutinizer has ever made it through an entire day without once using the word "hoosier"?


I doubt it.

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PostAug 24, 2007#489

Arch City -- where is that image from? I didn't see it on the Roberts Tower website.

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PostAug 24, 2007#490

Those cars appear to be on the sidewalk. I'd bet there will be a expose on urbanreviewstl by tonight - a campaign to rid sidewalks in renderings of cars in renderings - looked at how dangerous it is for the rendered people! (I kid - I kid!)

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PostAug 24, 2007#491

Grover wrote:Those cars appear to be on the sidewalk. I'd bet there will be a expose on urbanreviewstl by tonight - a campaign to rid sidewalks in renderings of cars in renderings - looked at how dangerous it is for the rendered people! (I kid - I kid!)
Ahh, check out "Jimmy Justice" from NYC. His stuff is pretty sweet too: http://www.youtube.com/user/JimmyJustice4753

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PostAug 24, 2007#492

^ Too bad he couldn't turn his anger towards developers and city planners!

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PostAug 24, 2007#493

Are those balconies sticking out!?!?!?!?!? If so, I never noticed those on the original rendering... I like...



:shock: :D :shock:

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PostAug 25, 2007#494

Mill204 wrote:London: Thames - tidal river

Paris: Seine - 80 ft elev. with little flow and easily regulated

St. Louis: Mississippi - 30 to 50 ft change in flow height


This is a good point, btw. The Mississippi was instrumental in Saint Louis' beginnings, but now it is a bit of a problem. It is hard to have a lovely stroll along the Mississippi when you are on the other side of a floodwall. That river is too wild to integrate it into our city like London and Paris (or even DC) has.

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PostAug 27, 2007#495

If you want to keep your view - buy it. And that is exactly what future tenants at Robert's Tower are doing - buying there view and the permanence that it will never be obstructed. Smart thinking for those who don't mind paying more.

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PostAug 30, 2007#496

stlmark wrote:
newstl2020 wrote:London: 11.8 Mil

Paris: 11.1

St. Louis: 2.8



(This is retarded)


Actually (from Wikepdia):



London: 8.5 M

Paris: 2.1 M

STL: 0.35 M



We do have the coolest flag though.


My numbers are the metros. Flag is cool though.

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PostAug 31, 2007#497

:!:



ok... fun comparisons...



:arrow: but, time to get this thread back on target - Robert's Tower Construction.



Thank you.

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PostAug 31, 2007#498

[crickets]

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PostAug 31, 2007#499

London = Big Ben & Parliament

Paris = The Eiffel Tower

St. Louis = The Roberts Tower!!!!!



:lol: sorry, matguy, couldn't resist.



Do we have a construction start date? Since they're altering traffic, I'm assuming they're gonna get started soon. Or do they have to wait for the plaza to get built?

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PostAug 31, 2007#500

I remember reading a while back that the construction of both would be simultaneous. I'm assuming the plot is still a parking lot?

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