Maybe, but compare that to Tucker coming into Downtown. It's like night and day...
Let’s be honest that Tucker is a highway through downtown. And Olive west of Tucker is highway sized but is only speed limited because of all the poorly timed stoplights.
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I appreciate that Tucker needs a road diet, and I completely support it, but I'm not sure what you're driving at with this comparison. One shot is a surface street going into downtown Columbus (took a little research to figure that out) across a relatively narrow freeway. The other is a surface street crossing a railroad yard on a bridge about a third of a mile long. A railroad yard that has been there since before downtown extended that far west, even. We can do a lot to make things better, but short of getting rid of the railroads there's really no connecting downtown to the south just there, and I for one want serious passenger service back, and in downtown, which would mean more trains there, not fewer. We do need better connections, and we can make it happen. And we do need more bike lanes and road diets. I'm a bit lost as to what you're driving at with the picture, though, so I'm not even quite sure if I agree, disagree, or have no opinion at all. Anyway . . . here's to making Tucker more pleasant. And here's to connecting downtown to its surroundings better. (Even if you can't necessarily do both at once.)TalkinDev wrote: ↑Sep 01, 2023Maybe, but compare that to Tucker coming into Downtown. It's like night and day...
Were those two pictures supposed to look different? Both look like pretty depressing streets to me so I assumed both are examples of bad urban street design.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Sep 02, 2023I appreciate that Tucker needs a road diet, and I completely support it, but I'm not sure what you're driving at with this comparison. One shot is a surface street going into downtown Columbus (took a little research to figure that out) across a relatively narrow freeway. The other is a surface street crossing a railroad yard on a bridge about a third of a mile long. A railroad yard that has been there since before downtown extended that far west, even. We can do a lot to make things better, but short of getting rid of the railroads there's really no connecting downtown to the south just there, and I for one want serious passenger service back, and in downtown, which would mean more trains there, not fewer. We do need better connections, and we can make it happen. And we do need more bike lanes and road diets. I'm a bit lost as to what you're driving at with the picture, though, so I'm not even quite sure if I agree, disagree, or have no opinion at all. Anyway . . . here's to making Tucker more pleasant. And here's to connecting downtown to its surroundings better. (Even if you can't necessarily do both at once.)TalkinDev wrote: ↑Sep 01, 2023Maybe, but compare that to Tucker coming into Downtown. It's like night and day...
No Labor Day Parade in Downtown this year. Instead, there was a "Labor Festival" in Florissant last weekend. Not sure if this is permanent, or just a one-off.
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It was always the least attended parade of all the ones down here. The people in the parade always outnumbered the audience and it was just people driving a route in their work trucks.
I don't know KC or Cleveland well enough, but hard disagree on St Louis obliterating Pittsburgh. Maybe we are just looking for different things, but Pittsburgh has many nice areas full of life (restaurants, retail, people in the streets) close to but outside of Downtown.addxb2 wrote: ↑Sep 01, 2023St. Louis might not compete well against those peers when considering only Downtown but if we’re considering the general central corridor (Downtown to Clayton), St. Louis obliterates KC, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh.
IMO, the issue with Downtown St. Louis is it’s not really central to anything. It’s not the center of the regions population/jobs. It’s not the center of the city’s population/jobs. It’s not even a well connected to its surrounding neighborhoods. A majority of the region, including city residents, don’t care because downtown doesn’t impact their lives.
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Bobby’s Place on Washington Ave will be a pharmacy
The space that Rooster occupied before moving to Wash Ave has been split up and is now a restaurant (Rated by Juwan Rice), Congressional office for Cori Bush and a salon.
The space that Rooster occupied before moving to Wash Ave has been split up and is now a restaurant (Rated by Juwan Rice), Congressional office for Cori Bush and a salon.
Taxable sales through Q2
^really encouraging to see 16% YOY growth in the city, especially when you consider the continued impact of work from home. I'd love to have insights on why the city is outpacing the region. Tourism? Entertainment? Retail? Residential gains?
I used to live in 63103 (DT West). I assume 63101 covers the CBD?
I used to live in 63103 (DT West). I assume 63101 covers the CBD?
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Yes, also 63101 was -20,000,000 at Q1, so it actually recovered in Q2 by being +13m and it should turn positive by end of year
Later I’ll have it by top 10 industry codes which should give you an idea where the growth is at
for first half of 2023. few industry codes for City only, post covid recovery continues. (vs 2019 hotels are even, restaurants are +20% for full service and 15% for limited)
Great insights. Thanks for providing the breakdown. Love to see the hotel #'s back at pre-pandemic levels.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Sep 07, 2023for first half of 2023. few industry codes for City only, post covid recovery continues. (vs 2019 hotels are even, restaurants are +20% for full service and 15% for limited)
Speaking of, I need to get down to 21C
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Taxable Sales by City zip codes for first half of 2023 vs 2022 (some western parts of the City fall within mostly county zip codes, so a few blocks in those aren't counted in the data, which could have a big impact if there is a sizeable biz there) Zip code total in 2023 adds up to 2.34Billion but City had about 2.97billion in sales in 2023. that difference of 600M could be in those or some other place. But this is a zip to zip comp anyway so it works
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hmm the big gainers have me scratching my head. Are these mostly driven by an uptick of industrial sales or something....?
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63105, which includes entire downtown Clayton and other parts of Clayton was +9% from 2022 to 2023.
63103 is probably mostly driven by City SC and increased biz at places around it (which will do even more this time next year when TopGolf is open)STLEnginerd wrote: ↑Sep 08, 2023hmm the big gainers have me scratching my head. Are these mostly driven by an uptick of industrial sales or something....?
63102 i would imagine industrial and Four Seasons
Went and looked at the 3 downtown zipcodes in 2018 January through June
$845,000,000 or $63m less than 2023.
$845,000,000 or $63m less than 2023.
Related to my tweet link above
The downtown recovery website only uses this part of downtown in its data. Doesn’t including buildings east of Broadway, the arch, Busch/ballpark village, enterprise center, downtown west.
The downtown recovery website only uses this part of downtown in its data. Doesn’t including buildings east of Broadway, the arch, Busch/ballpark village, enterprise center, downtown west.
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I've been working downtown quite a bit recently, and I've really enjoyed it.
I'm down here today and I'll be sure to use my cellphone, lol!
I think I'd like to work downtown fulltime and be part of at least the daytime population. Might start looking into what kind of opportunities there are down here.
I'm down here today and I'll be sure to use my cellphone, lol!
I think I'd like to work downtown fulltime and be part of at least the daytime population. Might start looking into what kind of opportunities there are down here.
