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PostJun 08, 2006#526

STLChristy wrote:We could do Sunday for sure. How does the tour work? Can you just go in any of the ones you want to see between those hours?


First you register at Washington & Tucker inside The Bogen. Then you're free to explore any of the open buildings. There are usually a number of resales happening during these tours as well. I think they help you get a feel of an actual lived in residence. But those units are not officially on the tour.

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PostJun 08, 2006#527

HonestBusinesMan wrote:There are usually a number of resales happening during these tours as well. I think they help you get a feel of an actual lived in residence. But those units are not officially on the tour.


To second HBM: if you're trying to get a feel for loft life, check out the off-tour resales. There are not any "lived in, not for sale" units on the spring tour. If you're shopping, be sure to look up in the handbook which buildings are rental and which are condos, to make efficient use of your time.



Be sure to start early, this year's tour is quite extensive.

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PostJun 08, 2006#528

Hi Christy,



Yes. You pay for the tour and get a wrist band or something like it and then you're on your own for the tour and can see as little or as much as you want. I've been to the last three, so don't know that I'll do the full boar this time around, but I'll see some of the newest ones for sure.

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PostJun 11, 2006#529

I went down to see the Banker's displays yesterday, and I just have to say:



Holy cow, that was fantastic. For people like me with units in Dorsa, Banker's is extremely reassuring. Congrats to you all on a great building. Seeing pictures of things online is nice, but there's nothing like actually being in the space and seeing everything come together. It really hits home how great these spaces are.

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PostJun 11, 2006#530

JimJim15 wrote:I went down to see the Banker's displays yesterday, and I just have to say:



Holy cow, that was fantastic. For people like me with units in Dorsa, Banker's is extremely reassuring. Congrats to you all on a great building. Seeing pictures of things online is nice, but there's nothing like actually being in the space and seeing everything come together. It really hits home how great these spaces are.


Thanks! Your comments confirm what I saw as well. It's turning out to be more than what I expected and that's something, considering I had high expectations to begin with.

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PostJun 12, 2006#531

Being a member of the Dorsa like JimJim, I have to agree. It's nice to have a sneak peek at what Pyramid has in mind for the Dorsa, by looking at Bankers.



I hope they were able to move most of the remaining units in Bankers during the tour! (because then they can devote more attention to Dorsa ;))

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PostJun 13, 2006#532

Here are a few pics from one of the displays at Bankers. It was the larger shotgun space at over 2300 SF. I must admit when I saw this floor plan on paper I thought it was horrible but after being in it I am singing a different tune. It was pretty cool even if you can only fit one bedroom and 1.5 baths in it. Pyramid said they are asking $287,000 for the unit, including all the upgrades. That is a phenomenal price.
























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PostJun 13, 2006#533

:shock: WOW!





I cannot wait to move in!!



When we were first looking at purchasing @ bankers, i remember looking at that 01 floorplan and thinking it was weird, but now looking at the pics of the shotgun style, that's really cool.

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PostJun 13, 2006#534

Great pics, rock! I went on the loft tour on sunday and saw both units. I thought they held up well against anything else i saw, including some that cost considerably more. Melanie did a great job with the decorating and the "gallery" effect on 101 is a great use of that space.



How do you show pics on this site? I tried last week but didn't have any luck. My files are jpeg. Can anyone give me a brief tutorial? Thanks!

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PostJun 13, 2006#535

Downtown STL Fan wrote:Great pics, rock! I went on the loft tour on sunday and saw both units. I thought they held up well against anything else i saw, including some that cost considerably more. Melanie did a great job with the decorating and the "gallery" effect on 101 is a great use of that space.



How do you show pics on this site? I tried last week but didn't have any luck. My files are jpeg. Can anyone give me a brief tutorial? Thanks!


Under the photography thread there are a number of messages on how to post pictures. http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=1803

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PostJun 13, 2006#536

Thanks much!

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PostJun 13, 2006#537

Love it! Melanie did a great job on this one! 8)

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PostJun 14, 2006#538

is anyone getting the kohler purist fixtures in their bathrooms? we bought quite a few pieces online and they look great however, we ended up with a few too many. if you are interested in a towel bar, toilet paper holder or a couple robe/towel hooks, PM me.

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PostJun 14, 2006#539

Come on, 2300 sq. ft. and only one bedroom? How can that be?

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PostJun 14, 2006#540

^

It's a really weird layout - lots of wasted space.

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PostJun 14, 2006#541

Framer wrote:Come on, 2300 sq. ft. and only one bedroom? How can that be?


1700 sq. ft. of hallway. That's how. :D Just kidding.



Seriously though, once I saw it in person, I liked it more as well. It was hard to visualize that layout working on paper.

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PostJun 15, 2006#542

When I was touring Bankers on the weekend it struck me how very thick the exterior walls were. Its obviously a timber frame building and I'm wondering what the benefits/downfalls are to this type of contruction as opposed to alternative types of construction in that generation of buildings. Anyone?

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PostJun 16, 2006#543

loftlover wrote:When I was touring Bankers on the weekend it struck me how very thick the exterior walls were. Its obviously a timber frame building and I'm wondering what the benefits/downfalls are to this type of contruction as opposed to alternative types of construction in that generation of buildings. Anyone?


I am sure I could answer your question, I'm just not sure what your question is...Could you please clarify? Timber frame buildings over 4 stories or so are generally going to have very thick exterior walls, at the base at least. The walls tend to get thinner the higher up you are in the building.



Benefits/downfalls with regard to what? And are you referring to the thick walls, or the timber frame?



Earthquakes - fahgedaboutit



Fires - not good, in major fires, and sometimes even minor ones, these buildings tend to collapse completely. A sprinkler system will prevent that, but then, depending on the sophistication (read: cost) of the sprinkler system, you can have leaks, false alarms and small fires where the sprinklers flood the whole building, etc. I doubt many of the loft buildings have sprinkler systems, though (except in restaurant kitchens).



Sound transmission - very little, with insulated windows these buildings are like caves.



Heat/cold insulating ability - great, as long as you aren't on the top floor.

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PostJun 16, 2006#544

Thanks JLB, that's exactly what I was looking for. Interesting that sound isolation is better in these buildings. BTW, I think most loft developments are fully sprinklered, I know our building is here at Railway.

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PostJun 17, 2006#545

:)

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PostJun 17, 2006#546

Yeah, I guess I should have clarified. I meant there is very little sound transmission from OUTSIDE the building. From inside, timber frame construction is the worst for sound transmission between levels, if it is not properly insulated for such. And as far as any new construction in the building such as partition walls, that obviously has nothing to do with the existing building.

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PostJun 18, 2006#547

loftlover wrote: BTW, I think most loft developments are fully sprinklered, I know our building is here at Railway.


I know the University Lofts is sprinklered too. (is sprinklered a word?)

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PostJun 18, 2006#548

Framer wrote:
loftlover wrote: BTW, I think most loft developments are fully sprinklered, I know our building is here at Railway.


I know the University Lofts is sprinklered too. (is sprinklered a word?)


I believe The Meridian is as well.

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PostJun 18, 2006#549

jlblues is wrong. Almost all of the buildings have working sprinkler systems.

They all have to be brought up to code in any of the loft conversions. Some of the buildings still have or had the sprinkler heads that had the metal alloy that would melt and open a lever mechanism which would open the sprinkler head valve.

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PostJun 19, 2006#550

it's not adequate. period. if you don't mind your floor staining from spills such as red wine, etc, you don't have to do anything.


What was the consensus with sealing the floor? Is it good enough and is anyone else doing anything more to the floor?



If you put extra sealant, does it look better, what was the cost, and can you recommend someone?



Thanks

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