Syndicate Trust Building - 915 Olive Street

jcity · PostFeb 05, 2007#2262007-02-05T02:46+00:00

QUOTE:

"I don't care, they can all claim to be the first so long as they keep building them green. Good for the economy, good for the environment. We should follow Portlands lead in requiring new construction to do it green."

Hmm, nothing like having an impediment and more regulation to stifle new development... The free market will decide if building green is necessary. I personally think its great, but lets not get overzelous with what's currently trendy. yes, it will most likely slowly become the norm, but REQUIRING all structures to be green isn't cheap. Remember, no new office towers downtown since 1989.

trent · PostFeb 05, 2007#2272007-02-05T18:00+00:00

If you put solar panels on the top of your house when you build it, you will save on energy costs in the long term. Sure it's more expensive up front, but it brings more value to your home, and saves you long term.

Or we could just okay any building that gets proposed because the free market dictated what could get built. We have zoning restrictions for a reason, to keep crap from being built. Green buildings are good for the long term economic health of the city, as well as the environment. I'm not sure I see a problem. Portland seems to be doing okay.

innov8ion · PostFeb 05, 2007#2282007-02-05T20:36+00:00

trent wrote:Or we could just okay any building that gets proposed because the free market dictated what could get built. We have zoning restrictions for a reason, to keep crap from being built. Green buildings are good for the long term economic health of the city, as well as the environment. I'm not sure I see a problem. Portland seems to be doing okay.

It is your opinion and not fact that "green buildings" are good for the long-term economic health of the city. What's the actual business case? At what year is the breakeven point? What the city doesn't need is more regulation to artifically increase prices, keeping more people from moving downtown. Not in my name...

There's a reason these condos are going for over $1 million. All this "green" mumbo jumbo is just a means to increase prices and in the process, take more green from your wallet.

Kinda reminds me of "green" ethanol which is a farmer subsidy, ineffecient source of energy, costs consumers more and is pissing off the Mexicans because demand for ethanol from corn has caused tortillas to skyrocket. Ref: http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20070203/food.asp

Next thing you know, some suckers will say global warming is caused by humans. Silly tree-hugging, closed-minded, unscientific egotists ... http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/glo ... 020507.htm

End of rant

irocktheparty2000 · PostFeb 18, 2007#2292007-02-18T02:17+00:00

Upcoming Syndicate event for anyone who might be interested.

stlmike · PostFeb 19, 2007#2302007-02-19T00:22+00:00

Next thing you know, some suckers will say global warming is caused by humans. Silly tree-hugging, closed-minded, unscientific egotists ...

Didn't you complain when some tree hugger in another thread made some political comment? This is a bait and you know it.

innov8ion · PostFeb 19, 2007#2312007-02-19T03:34+00:00

stlmike wrote:
Next thing you know, some suckers will say global warming is caused by humans. Silly tree-hugging, closed-minded, unscientific egotists ...
Didn't you complain when some tree hugger in another thread made some political comment? This is a bait and you know it.

There was nothing about politics in that statement. It just scares me when people attempt to stir up hysteria regarding global warming and prevent scientific research from taking place. Reminds me of back in the day when the church vilified the scientist Copernicus for saying the earth revolved around the sun. The comment was appropriate given the talk about mandating "green" buildings in St. Louis.

stlmike · PostFeb 19, 2007#2322007-02-19T15:23+00:00

No it wasn't... You were speculating ahead of time at an opponents position and, by doing so, bringing it up yourself and trying tease them into defending it. And don't be too worried because many of the people "stirring up hysteria" are also credible scientists. Let's just leave it that some credible people think that global warming is caused by humans and some don't. It's not a fact either way and this is not the place to debate it. No one would be "preventing scientific research" or obstructing discource by posing one view or another until someone says that it's hysteria to disagree with you.

innov8ion · PostFeb 19, 2007#2332007-02-19T16:30+00:00

I speculated nothing. As stated, I was drawing a connection between the call for demands of green buildings in the city (overregulation which would serve to keep new people out of downtown) with those making environmental claims that are disputed by science.

Al Gore stated that research should not be conducted that may dispute the validity of global warming. This is cultish, fascist, and an abomination. All I'm saying is we should keep off the Kool-Aid, be open to critical-thinking, and allow the market to decide about green building.

stlmike · PostFeb 19, 2007#2342007-02-19T16:39+00:00

"Next thing you know"

How is this not the start of a speculation?

PostFeb 19, 2007#2352007-02-19T16:40+00:00

And I agree with you about letting the market decide about green building. I wouldn't be opposed to encouraging it. Although it is disputed, it is still a consensus among scientists as to its human cause, which is enough for me to consider it as a credible view. I have not seen Gore's film nor have I heard that quote and its context, but the way you phrased it I would disagree with Al Gore in that instance.

innov8ion · PostFeb 19, 2007#2362007-02-19T16:43+00:00

I think we pretty much agree, Mike. Let's get back to talk about the Syndicate! Sorry about the little detour although it seemed to be a natural offshoot of the convo...

stlmike · PostFeb 19, 2007#2372007-02-19T16:47+00:00

Yeah, agreed. Sorry everyone.

irocktheparty2000 · PostFeb 20, 2007#2382007-02-20T05:56+00:00

OK, so back on topic. I hear sales at the Syndicate are starting to pop. Foot traffic is increasing and think a mix of condos and penthouses have recently been bought. Could be a signal of a strong spring market as know this past Sunday brought a busy sales center (was the first warm day we've had in like a month) or could be a signal that people are really starting to realize what a great project this is, or maybe a combo of both. But whatever, glad to see it and hope all of downtown is starting to experience similar success!

rickc · PostFeb 26, 2007#2392007-02-26T02:59+00:00

Thought it might be interesting to post a few "before" pictures of unit 909 that I took during a buckhoist tour back in October of 06. I plan on taking some "after" shots this Wednesday at the Designer Showcase party which includes a preview of the new 9th floor display model (unit 909). New concrete subfloor had been poured, much of the ceiling and wall framing had been completed, some new windows, exterior wall electrical circuits were installed, sprinkler piping installed and some of the ductwork had been completed.

Guest · PostFeb 26, 2007#2402007-02-26T18:40+00:00

The pictures above are taken of unit 909. The new finished display unit is actually unit 908. Unit 909 is partially framed & drywalled, but will remain unfinished for the event on Wednesday. Both of these units will be open to tour at the event this Wednesday.

innov8ion · PostFeb 26, 2007#2412007-02-26T22:09+00:00

Exciting times. I remember shortly after I had reserved, going in and taking progress pictures. It's great to see!

rickc · PostFeb 27, 2007#2422007-02-27T01:19+00:00

uneekloft, thanks for posting the correction about the display unit. Looks like I'll be taking some pictures of two units now!

irocktheparty2000 · PostMar 01, 2007#2432007-03-01T03:37+00:00

Went to the Syndicate Design Party tonight and for anyone who thinks the downtown maket is slowing...think again.

They had over 200 people RSVP and there was a steady stream of people all night making trips up to see the new display unit. The display turned out great and the night views were pretty awesome.

The Syndicate seems to have a lot going for it, with great standard finishes, a location that really just can't be beat and a developer who seems to really care about the product he is bringing to the market. And I'm pretty sure they sold a few more units tonight.

moorlander · PostMar 01, 2007#2442007-03-01T05:17+00:00

PO square was designated as prime redevelopment area for a reason... everything resonates from there...

steve · PostMar 01, 2007#2452007-03-01T15:30+00:00

bpe235 wrote:PO square was designated as prime redevelopment area for a reason... everything resonates from there...

Agreed. I've always that the the OPO square as the rightful throbbing heart of downtown. It's virtually equidistant from pretty much everything downtown, and once the Arcade/Wright, Chemical, and Syndicate finally come on line (plus Roberts Tower, please happen), this will be an exciting spot.

the central scrutinizer · PostMar 01, 2007#2462007-03-01T15:45+00:00

steve wrote:
bpe235 wrote:PO square was designated as prime redevelopment area for a reason... everything resonates from there...

Agreed. I've always that the the OPO square as the rightful throbbing heart of downtown. It's virtually equidistant from pretty much everything downtown, and once the Arcade/Wright, Chemical, and Syndicate finally come on line (plus Roberts Tower, please happen), this will be an exciting spot.

They should restore the streets around it to brick as we saw under the asphalt in that picture.

threeonefour · PostMar 02, 2007#2472007-03-02T14:14+00:00

^ I like that idea, Central. And I agree with those calling this the true heart of downtown.

In a downtown full of impressive living options, this one's my favorite.

rickc · PostMar 02, 2007#2482007-03-02T20:03+00:00

Pictures of the 908 display from this past Wednesday's event. I was very impressed with the whole event, from the display to the food and drink. Loved those meat kabobs!!!

Entrance

Looking towards entrance hall from kitchen.

Turning clockwise towards dining and living room.

Master Bathroom

Sorry, I didn't get many "clean" pics of the kitchen, to many people started showing up.

debaliviere · PostMar 02, 2007#2492007-03-02T20:09+00:00

Looks great - thanks for the pics!

thewayofthearch · PostMar 02, 2007#2502007-03-02T20:25+00:00

Looks like a great job! I really dig those glass wall showers.

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