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PostSep 10, 2024#601

legendrey wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
It would be incredible to have it located near enough to an Eads bridge newly repurposed into a pedestrian bridge
If I’m ever mayor, repurposing Eads Bridge into pedestrian and cycling use will be near the top of the infrastructure list. Too many people throw around the idea and most other river cities having this type of thing, it will be proposed and happen soon enough.

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PostSep 10, 2024#602

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
legendrey wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
It would be incredible to have it located near enough to an Eads bridge newly repurposed into a pedestrian bridge
If I’m ever mayor, repurposing Eads Bridge into pedestrian and cycling use will be near the top of the infrastructure list. Too many people throw around the idea and most other river cities having this type of thing, it will be proposed and happen soon enough.
The Mississippi is a serious river and the east bank is almost completely undeveloped.  If you got them to significantly build up the east side such that there is something worth walking to, i will change my position and support the concept.

Cincinnati is the only comparable river i can think of that has a pedestrian bridge and Newport is certainly a well developed part of the metro.

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PostSep 10, 2024#603

STLEnginerd wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
legendrey wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
It would be incredible to have it located near enough to an Eads bridge newly repurposed into a pedestrian bridge
If I’m ever mayor, repurposing Eads Bridge into pedestrian and cycling use will be near the top of the infrastructure list. Too many people throw around the idea and most other river cities having this type of thing, it will be proposed and happen soon enough.
The Mississippi is a serious river and the east bank is almost completely undeveloped.  If you got them to significantly build up the east side such that there is something worth walking to, i will change my position and support the concept.

Cincinnati is the only comparable river i can think of that has a pedestrian bridge and Newport is certainly a well developed part of the metro.
Stone Arch Bridge in Minneapolis over wide part of Mississippi, where its dammed, probably is closest comp.

Louisville also has ped bridge over Ohio. Austin over Colorado River. Nashville over Tennessee River. Indianapolis over White River. Columbus over Scioto. Omaha over Missouri. Richmond over James.

There’s a lot of examples of long ped bridges over rivers and bays. But yes, there is not much incentive to go all the way to the other side right now except to bike the nature trails. I’m probably thinking a chicken egg situation at this point with the East Riverfront. Maybe if we do a ped bridge, stuff will go over there. It’s tough

PostSep 10, 2024#604

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
STLEnginerd wrote:
Sep 10, 2024

If I’m ever mayor, repurposing Eads Bridge into pedestrian and cycling use will be near the top of the infrastructure list. Too many people throw around the idea and most other river cities having this type of thing, it will be proposed and happen soon enough.
The Mississippi is a serious river and the east bank is almost completely undeveloped.  If you got them to significantly build up the east side such that there is something worth walking to, i will change my position and support the concept.

Cincinnati is the only comparable river i can think of that has a pedestrian bridge and Newport is certainly a well developed part of the metro.
Stone Arch Bridge in Minneapolis over wide part of Mississippi, where its dammed, probably is closest comp.

Louisville also has ped bridge over Ohio. Austin over Colorado River. Nashville over Tennessee River. Indianapolis over White River. Columbus over Scioto. Omaha over Missouri. Richmond over James.

There’s a lot of examples of long ped bridges over rivers and bays. But yes, there is not much incentive to go all the way to the other side right now except to bike the nature trails. I’m probably thinking a chicken egg situation at this point with the East Riverfront. Maybe if we do a ped bridge, stuff will go over there. It’s tough. My draw is more about bringing more tourists north over to Wash Ave and the landing from the Arch park and more locals down to the Arch park

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PostSep 10, 2024#605

East St. Louis is probably going to have to develop the land over there a little bit before there is any political will to find money for a true pedestrian/biking component to Eads Bridge from either state. 

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PostSep 10, 2024#606

What's the argument against a happy medium where you cut down a lane of traffic, add in a protected bike lane, and widen the sidewalks. This bridge is wide enough for all of that. I feel like making it ped only would be underutilization of a truly great bridge.

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PostSep 11, 2024#607

Auggie wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
What's the argument against a happy medium where you cut down a lane of traffic, add in a protected bike lane, and widen the sidewalks. This bridge is wide enough for all of that. I feel like making it ped only would be underutilization of a truly great bridge.
Yes you could make half the bridge useful for ped and cycle use pretty easily. There is no car traffic over it

Eventually StL has to try a pedestrian/biking street only somewhere. Clark is probably the easiest to do since it is for game weekends. I think every major city I’ve been to has one. we do not

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PostSep 11, 2024#608

The region's outdoor concert amphitheater should be in East St. Louis with the Arch/Skyline in the background and easy highway/transit access.  Any other location, including the current one in Maryland Heights is dumb.

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PostSep 11, 2024#609

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
Sep 10, 2024
STLEnginerd wrote:
Sep 10, 2024

If I’m ever mayor, repurposing Eads Bridge into pedestrian and cycling use will be near the top of the infrastructure list. Too many people throw around the idea and most other river cities having this type of thing, it will be proposed and happen soon enough.
The Mississippi is a serious river and the east bank is almost completely undeveloped.  If you got them to significantly build up the east side such that there is something worth walking to, i will change my position and support the concept.

Cincinnati is the only comparable river i can think of that has a pedestrian bridge and Newport is certainly a well developed part of the metro.
Stone Arch Bridge in Minneapolis over wide part of Mississippi, where its dammed, probably is closest comp.
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Louisville also has ped bridge over Ohio. Austin over Colorado River. Nashville over Tennessee River. Indianapolis over White River. Columbus over Scioto. Omaha over Missouri. Richmond over James.

There’s a lot of examples of long ped bridges over rivers and bays. But yes, there is not much incentive to go all the way to the other side right now except to bike the nature trails. I’m probably thinking a chicken egg situation at this point with the East Riverfront. Maybe if we do a ped bridge, stuff will go over there. It’s tough. My draw is more about bringing more tourists north over to Wash Ave and the landing from the Arch park and more locals down to the Arch park
all of those example (most of which are significantly smaller bridges in both length and capacity lead somewhere people want to go.   Build up the East riverfront and I'm onboard but making Eads a strictly pedestrian bridge will not fix East St. Louis.  Buy the damn Cargill facility and rebuild the casino where Cargill is or between the bridges north of Eads.  Build an amphitheatre,  train station, etc. etc.  Do something that will make the east side significantly less depressing to look at and maybe people will decide to go there via car bike or feet.


I am onboard with making it 1/2 pedestrian though.  I am also on board with a weekend festival on the bridge.  Call it Bridgefest.  Art craft Food Rides etc, and amazing views of the St. Louis skyline.  

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