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PostJan 20, 2009#851

lamiaposta wrote:Another business closes at St Louis Union Station. Over the weekend the Shed Restaruant shuttered its doors. I heard that the employees recieved no advance notice and were notified at the end of the evening they no longer had jobs. The closings at Union Station is like a runaway train.



As for the Marriot, blueprints recently revealed that they are going to take over the East West leg of the mall west from the grand staircase entrance to 20th street and make this area part of the hotel and their new lobby. The plans show the lobby entrance and front desk will still be on Market, but will be moved west to the entrance nearest 20th street. The Grand Hall still accesible will be devoted to functions and will not be interrupted by guest checking in. This addition will increase the number of meeting space areas as they are trying to develop this as their midwest headquarters and meeting center. So one would have to believe that the stores currently in that area will be getting the boot soon to other areas in the mall. If the merchnats decide to stay. Sounds like the Marriott has decided to take charge of their own destiny.


1) Wasn't The Shed run by the old Hyatt? If you ate from there I think your credit card receipt from there would say Hyatt.

EDIT: plus I think their employee nametags said Hyatt.



2)That make sense about the Grand Hall. I went to a wedding reception there one time and it was messy having people walk through the party to go to the front desk. When the wedding party arrived and was announced up the steps, they had to stop people from entering and exiting.

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PostJan 20, 2009#853



Maybe Sage #2 will be the Marriott's new main restaurant and they'll close the Station Grill that's behind the current main desk. If the east wing will be the new lobby, they could go into the spot where the sportsbars and microbrewery was.



Then the Station Grill could operate as the catering/banquet kitchen.

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PostJan 21, 2009#854

Sage says "south entrance to the station plaza." I don't remember what was down on that end, but it's a space with outdoor seating.

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PostJan 21, 2009#855

bonwich wrote:Sage says "south entrance to the station plaza." I don't remember what was down on that end, but it's a space with outdoor seating.


Down by Houlihan's, I would imagine. Is Houlihan's even there anymore?

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PostJan 21, 2009#856

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
bonwich wrote:Sage says "south entrance to the station plaza." I don't remember what was down on that end, but it's a space with outdoor seating.


Down by Houlihan's, I would imagine. Is Houlihan's even there anymore?


Houlihan's is still there... I wonder if the new place is just taking the place of the Shed, on the south eastern corner of the station.

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PostJan 21, 2009#857

Yes, but does Union Station still have the stand that sells gourmet dog treats?

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PostJan 21, 2009#858

jmmnq6 wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
bonwich wrote:Sage says "south entrance to the station plaza." I don't remember what was down on that end, but it's a space with outdoor seating.


Down by Houlihan's, I would imagine. Is Houlihan's even there anymore?


Houlihan's is still there... I wonder if the new place is just taking the place of the Shed, on the south eastern corner of the station.


I went into Union Station Saturday to get some cash from the ATM. It certainly looked like the Shed was closed down. That'd be a logical place for another restaurant to go in.

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PostJan 21, 2009#859

I hope they don't block access to the Grand Hall altogether, that would be a true shame. Also moving the entrance to 20th street might make the Market Street side even more desolate.

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PostJan 22, 2009#860

^Those are both good points. It would be a crime to deny the public access to the Grand Hall. One of the great rooms in St. Louis.



BTW, who exactly owns Union Station anyway? I assume it's a privately owned building, so the owners can do whatever they want with it, eh?

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PostJan 27, 2009#861

-They're boxing up at "The Body Shop"

-The little old ladies at the customer service desk are out of work. It looks like that has closed.

-The old "Shed" restaurant has a sign saying "Coming Soon: Beechwood Grill".



It's really sad over there. The food court would be closed if it wasn't for the Postal and federal building workers.

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PostJan 27, 2009#862

^ Does anyone else think the federal building and postal workers are the problem? In the sense that those buildings take up whole city blocks and are closed and dark at night, they're killing Union Station just as they give it what appears to be one last lifeline.

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PostJan 27, 2009#863

Grover wrote:^ Does anyone else think the federal building and postal workers are the problem? In the sense that those buildings take up whole city blocks and are closed and dark at night, they're killing Union Station just as they give it what appears to be one last lifeline.


Yes, office buildings are bad. Let's get rid of the federal buildings, the post office along with all of the workers. Screw them all. :roll:



Plus that big Blue Cross/Blue Shield/Anthem building across the street from Union Station. Let's blow that up and build tons of residential. :roll: :roll:

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PostJan 27, 2009#864

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Grover wrote:^ Does anyone else think the federal building and postal workers are the problem? In the sense that those buildings take up whole city blocks and are closed and dark at night, they're killing Union Station just as they give it what appears to be one last lifeline.


Yes, office buildings are bad. Let's get rid of the federal buildings, the post office along with all of the workers. Screw them all. :roll:



Plus that big Blue Cross/Blue Shield/Anthem building across the street from Union Station. Let's blow that up and build tons of residential. :roll: :roll:


YIKES! Just pointing out that the area around US is dead after the superblocks of workers go home. Workers = good, mixed use = better!

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PostJan 28, 2009#865

dweebe, I think you read a little too deep in to that post by Grover ;)

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PostJan 28, 2009#866

Yeah, I think Grover made a good point about the dearth of mixed-use development in the immediate area.



I still think it's a shame that a residential component couldn't have been added to Union Station. Even with an expanded hotel and downsized retail area, I don't see how Union Station can claim its full potential without a more thorough remaking, and that's where I think adjacent residential development would help to some extent.



The concentration of civic buildings along Market Street looks impressive enough, but it also creates a dead zone through much of the day that would be less of an issue if there was at least some mixed-use development nearby. I don't think anyone's suggesting that the government buildings or the workers are liabilities by any means, but I think mixed-use development in this particular area is something to think about as the government's need for those buildings along Market Street continues to evolve over the coming years.

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PostJan 28, 2009#867

I'd love to see part of U.S. get converted into some sort of condos. That would be an awesome place to live, especially if they ended up keeping some of the retail and had the hotel there. Restaurants, stores, bars, etc., just downstairs - and some underneath the same roof.



I'd buy.

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PostJan 28, 2009#868

JMStokes wrote:I'd love to see part of U.S. get converted into some sort of condos. That would be an awesome place to live, especially if they ended up keeping some of the retail and had the hotel there. Restaurants, stores, bars, etc., just downstairs - and some underneath the same roof.


And I think you wouldn't be alone. If Union Station could offer residents amenities (including some of those available to hotel guests) and attracted a stronger mix of restaurants and retailers, I think people would love to live there as it's still a cherished local landmark despite its recent decline.



I used to love going to Union Station when the quantity, quality, and variety of stores and restaurants were better, but honestly, there's little reason to go there now.

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PostJan 28, 2009#869

Grover wrote:^ Does anyone else think the federal building and postal workers are the problem? In the sense that those buildings take up whole city blocks and are closed and dark at night, they're killing Union Station just as they give it what appears to be one last lifeline.


I think a bigger problem is a lack of connectivity to US. Just a few blocks to the north are numerous loft developments, the Tap Room, etc., but the area feels really disconnected from US. I think the problem stems from the weird 22nd street off ramps and the sea of parking lots separating the lofts in DT West from US. If those issues are ever addressed - getting rid of the ramps to free up land for new development and then fill in the gaps with residential and office developments - it would work to US's benefit.

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PostMar 04, 2009#870

The Beechwood Grill is now open. The sign says "Beechwood Grill by Sage". Seemed to have a decent crowd in there.



I noticed that even though the Missouri valley tournament starts tommorow, none of the schools have set up hospitality suites/school merchandise stores in the empty storefronts. In previous years schools like Missouri State, Drake, Creighton would set up temporary space in Union Station. Wonder why they changed?

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PostMar 04, 2009#871

My dad works next to Union Station and one day he came home and told me about a mexican restaurant in the station with the name "Senor 'somthing somethin'"...however, on the sign on the east enterance to the station, it was spelled "Senior 'somthing somethin'"...has anyone else noticed this?!

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PostMar 05, 2009#872

denlp02 wrote:My dad works next to Union Station and one day he came home and told me about a mexican restaurant in the station with the name "Senor 'somthing somethin'"...however, on the sign on the east enterance to the station, it was spelled "Senior 'somthing somethin'"...has anyone else noticed this?!


Yeah. They lasted like 6 months, tops.

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PostMar 05, 2009#873

senior Julios... somewhere in this thread someone said it was an accident and it was too expensive to change so they just went with it.

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PostApr 01, 2009#874

Union Station has enveiled the new plans for construction on Union Station.



The midway area will be completely renovated starting this month (April) and will be under construction for one year. It will develope new sleeping rooms in an expanded Marriott hotel, a new restaurant and nightclub for the hotel and new shops.

The midway will now be part of the hotel area and the shopping concourse with foodcourt will remain on the southside of the staton to the lakeside area.

This coming from the Marriott hotel at Union Station General Manager - they are a vender of mine. I just received a general email from the hotel yesterday on this subject.



ALSO;




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PostApr 01, 2009#875

matguy70 wrote:Union Station has enveiled the new plans for construction on Union Station.



The midway area will be completely renovated starting this month (April) and will be under construction for one year. It will develope new sleeping rooms in an expanded Marriott hotel, a new restaurant and nightclub for the hotel and new shops.

The midway will now be part of the hotel area and the shopping concourse with foodcourt will remain on the southside of the staton to the lakeside area.

This coming from the Marriott hotel at Union Station General Manager - they are a vender of mine. I just received a general email from the hotel yesterday on this subject.


Any word on new tenants?

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