Airlines are being forced to cut flights to Mexico City and use the disaster of a secondary airport because of government pressure so it’s hard for me to see that happen also. Plus, Mexico City from non hubs or border states usually doesn’t last long.dredger wrote: ↑Jan 29, 2024^ Have to agree, tough seeing Lambert having a direct to anywhere in South American
However, I wonder if Aeromexico would be a good international connection/fit for Lambert. Believe on the Aeromexico route map you would have the desired connection to Sao Paulo via Mexico City. Of course, you you wouldn't have the Bayer/European airline making the connection but none the less. Think a direct flight into Mexico City might be a business plus for the region. Especially when you consider how much agriculture products are sent south of the border.
https://aeromexico.com/en-eu/frequency-of-flights
Thank you for researching that. I was wondering if anyone outside Dallas and Chicago had South American non-stops.addxb2 wrote: ↑Jan 29, 2024Any of them would be a stretch. The smallest business market with connection to São Paulo is Dallas.
United from Chicago, but not Denver.
American from Dallas, but not Chicago.
Delta from Atlanta, but no Detroit or Minneapolis.
My point is… not very likely.
LATAM doesn’t even fly to Chicago.
This one probably makes the most sense because it’s can be on narrowbody but daily passengers are in the single digits.
I honestly think that's a great example of a route that would be instantly stimulated by a non-stop. It's a tropical city in the Caribbean. We love our tropical beachesjshank83 wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024This one probably makes the most sense because it’s can be on narrowbody but daily passengers are in the single digits.shadrach wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024I’ve mentioned Panama City/Copa Airlines before, I think that would be a good connector to Central and South America and really not that much of a stretch.
that'd be a good way to connect to the whole of S America but if you were specifically looking to connect to Sao Paulo would it not be better to connect to a widebody flight in the US and do a long leg to Sao Paulo. Honestly i might prefer the former but the risk associated with connecting in a foreign country would have me a bit nervous.stl07 wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024I honestly think that's a great example of a route that would be instantly stimulated by a non-stop. It's a tropical city in the Caribbean. We love our tropical beachesjshank83 wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024This one probably makes the most sense because it’s can be on narrowbody but daily passengers are in the single digits.shadrach wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024I’ve mentioned Panama City/Copa Airlines before, I think that would be a good connector to Central and South America and really not that much of a stretch.
For Sao Paulo it might not make a difference. But I’d be curious, if like Lufthansa does to Europe, it opens some 1 stops to central and South America that now would be 2 stops.STLEnginerd wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024that'd be a good way to connect to the whole of S America but if you were specifically looking to connect to Sao Paulo would it not be better to connect to a widebody flight in the US and do a long leg to Sao Paulo. Honestly i might prefer the former but the risk associated with connecting in a foreign country would have me a bit nervous.stl07 wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024I honestly think that's a great example of a route that would be instantly stimulated by a non-stop. It's a tropical city in the Caribbean. We love our tropical beachesjshank83 wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024
This one probably makes the most sense because it’s can be on narrowbody but daily passengers are in the single digits.
Yeah. Not sure why it didn't come up, but Miami is American's hub to South America. It was originally a bunch of Pan Am routes, built by Juan Trippe and Charles Lindbergh, but American picked them up when Pan Am began to struggle. (In about the same way they picked up TWA's coveted Heathrow slots long before they acquired the airline itself.) Miami is a particularly important hub on the power of that alone. And yes, they have a direct flight to Sao Paolo. And every other major Caribbean, Central, and South American city. Just pulling this off their Wiki page, but:dweebe wrote: ↑Jan 30, 2024Thank you for researching that. I was wondering if anyone outside Dallas and Chicago had South American non-stops.addxb2 wrote: ↑Jan 29, 2024Any of them would be a stretch. The smallest business market with connection to São Paulo is Dallas.
United from Chicago, but not Denver.
American from Dallas, but not Chicago.
Delta from Atlanta, but no Detroit or Minneapolis.
My point is… not very likely.
LATAM doesn’t even fly to Chicago.
That’s the STL way. Finally get some good traction and something totally out of nowhere happens to derail things for awhile. Hoping we get back above 2019 this year.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Feb 02, 2024^It's not my fault, I swear. I flew more in 2023 than in 2019. I'll try to do even better in 2024.
Glad to see things are improving, but man, it's still frustrating. We were doing so nicely in 2019.
ITFS in Stuttgart? I’d like to make it one of these years.quincunx wrote: ↑Feb 02, 2024I'll be taking the FRA flight in April!
ITSF in Stuttgart? I’d like to make it one of these years.quincunx wrote: ↑Feb 02, 2024I'll be taking the FRA flight in April!
Terminal 2 opened in 1998. Are we going to demolish it?
Hamm-Niebruegge: We identified different potential repurposes for it, including a boutique hotel, business center, putting all airport administration offices there, offices for concessions, vendors, airlines. We don’t think there’s enough space for a consolidated rental car facility. Those decisions won’t be made until much farther down the road – five, six, seven years. It won’t have a direct use in aviation, but I don’t believe it would be taken down.
The garage isn’t near big enough.Trololzilla wrote: ↑Feb 06, 2024Interesting - apparently, T2 isn't considered big enough to be a consolidated rental car facility by airport leadership per this article in the Business Journal.
Terminal 2 opened in 1998. Are we going to demolish it?
Hamm-Niebruegge: We identified different potential repurposes for it, including a boutique hotel, business center, putting all airport administration offices there, offices for concessions, vendors, airlines. We don’t think there’s enough space for a consolidated rental car facility. Those decisions won’t be made until much farther down the road – five, six, seven years. It won’t have a direct use in aviation, but I don’t believe it would be taken down.
I see on the Frontier web site new service to Phoenix. Not seeing Philadelphia listed.jshank83 wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2024Frontier starting STL-PHL
Starts May 22nd.
4x a week.
Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday
Morning flight both ways.
It loaded into their schedule tonight. Actual announcement will be tomorrow. Most of the ULCCs load the night before they announce them for some reason
