Don't they have insurance?
of course they do.
We are going to get a better airport out of this in the long. Sad way to get it done - but it will be likely they get assistance and renovations will be pushed forward.
We are going to get a better airport out of this in the long. Sad way to get it done - but it will be likely they get assistance and renovations will be pushed forward.
I haven't been able to find much more than this:
"She said the airport will use insurance benefits to pay for repairs plus seeking assistance from the state and federal government. U.S. Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-St. Louis, said he had briefed the White House on the situation and would seek whatever funds are available from Washington. Slay said Gov. Jay Nixon had pledged to do what he can with assistance from the state."
http://www.stlbeacon.org/issues-politic ... and-houses
"She said the airport will use insurance benefits to pay for repairs plus seeking assistance from the state and federal government. U.S. Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-St. Louis, said he had briefed the White House on the situation and would seek whatever funds are available from Washington. Slay said Gov. Jay Nixon had pledged to do what he can with assistance from the state."
http://www.stlbeacon.org/issues-politic ... and-houses
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Unfortunate that this happened but you're right we'll get a better airport out of this in the long run and it'll make for a nice story when we do. It was a big international story, trended worldwide on twitter etc.matguy70 wrote:of course they do.
We are going to get a better airport out of this in the long. Sad way to get it done - but it will be likely they get assistance and renovations will be pushed forward.
As I’m stuck mindlessly organizing outlines for upcoming law school exams, I decided to make the process less tedious by listening to this full interview
http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-jaco-r ... 7052.story
Among the highlights, Concourse C is basically going to be completely rebuilt. This should take several months to complete. Additionally, they are not going to use this as an opportunity to make additional improvements to the effected areas. Rather, they are just going to go ahead and implement existing renovation plans.
As far as funding goes, Lambert is insured for up to $132 million. She said that they are also seeking federal assistance. I didn’t get the sense that such funding is necessarily coming, though I don’t mean to imply that we won’t get federal disaster relief.
http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-jaco-r ... 7052.story
Among the highlights, Concourse C is basically going to be completely rebuilt. This should take several months to complete. Additionally, they are not going to use this as an opportunity to make additional improvements to the effected areas. Rather, they are just going to go ahead and implement existing renovation plans.
As far as funding goes, Lambert is insured for up to $132 million. She said that they are also seeking federal assistance. I didn’t get the sense that such funding is necessarily coming, though I don’t mean to imply that we won’t get federal disaster relief.
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a post from thursday
and from a cnn story today...dredger wrote:First, I wish the airport, the region and everybody on this board would admit that Concourse D no longer serves a useful purpose and the need for those gates in foreseeable future is non-existent.
How's that for irony?Four carriers were being relocated from C Concourse, which suffered the most damage, with about half its windows blown out. Of those four, AirTran Airways and Frontier Airlines were both at about 50% in their new home on B Concourse, and planned to be fully operational Monday. On Monday, the airport's D Concourse will be opened to house American Airlines and Cape Air, Hamm-Niebruegge said.
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OK. I guess we don't need concourse C, then. Take your pick.
Why don't we use this opportunity to raze concourse C and rebuild it as a wide, high ceiling, modern concourse on par with the new concourses at Detroit, or Oklahoma City?
Or are we just going to pocket the insurance money and drive the car with hail damage.
Why don't we use this opportunity to raze concourse C and rebuild it as a wide, high ceiling, modern concourse on par with the new concourses at Detroit, or Oklahoma City?
Or are we just going to pocket the insurance money and drive the car with hail damage.
New York Times piece on Lambert Terminal -- damage and architectural signifigance.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/us/25 ... tml?src=mv
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/25/us/25 ... tml?src=mv
What's the point in just demolishing C? The only reason you want D to be demolished is to have a rental car facility, but getting rid of C won't do anything for that. Fix it up? Of course. Modernize it in the process? Even better! But demolishing it completely just seems like a waste to me. It'd probably cost just as much, if not more, to demolish C as it would to fix it. Might as well have the extra capacity. It's certainly coming in handy right now!
Have to admit, enjoyed the irony even though I hate to see people have to go through that messmaskedmesothorium wrote:a post from thursday
and from a cnn story today...dredger wrote:First, I wish the airport, the region and everybody on this board would admit that Concourse D no longer serves a useful purpose and the need for those gates in foreseeable future is non-existent.
How's that for irony?Four carriers were being relocated from C Concourse, which suffered the most damage, with about half its windows blown out. Of those four, AirTran Airways and Frontier Airlines were both at about 50% in their new home on B Concourse, and planned to be fully operational Monday. On Monday, the airport's D Concourse will be opened to house American Airlines and Cape Air, Hamm-Niebruegge said.
Still stand by my opinion, even if the extra gates in Concourse D come in handy on the very short term.
I just wish we could have an airport where the concourses were made out of a continuous line of archform thin concrete shells just like the main ticketing level of the original design. I think that would turn out quite beautiful.
First off, I assume whey they say that concourse C is essentially going to be rebuilt, they mean mean it's going to get a new shell and skin and that the actual structure and foundation is still perfectly fine.gary kreie wrote:Why don't we use this opportunity to raze concourse C and rebuild it as a wide, high ceiling, modern concourse on par with the new concourses at Detroit, or Oklahoma City?
Second, I think it would be a waste of time and money to rebuild Concourse C in it's present location. Concourse C has a modern day flaw in its design in that planes on the north side of the concourse must pull out of their gates into the middle of a taxiway. Any new concourses should be built to at least address this design error.
Lastly, if you're going to rebuild Lambert's concourses, Councourse C is likely the -last- one that would be done as construction would interfere with far too many gates. Had Concourse A been the one hit by the tornado...
Perhaps you remember this idea of mine from 4 years ago?
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^Looks like a gun shooting a bullet to the left.
Wait a minute...I think we have found a way to entice out-state MO to actually support a St. Louis infrastructure project!
Wait a minute...I think we have found a way to entice out-state MO to actually support a St. Louis infrastructure project!
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And please repeat the iconic main terminal structure. That would help build a strong identity.
I haven't done the leg work, but I believe AA will be using less gates in D then they were using C. Biz journal article stated that a AA will use a total of five gates in D. I hope AA doesn't see this isn't an opportunity to drop more service in the long run
Maybe the silver lining in all this, a decent discussion by the region on addressing a long term plan for the terminals and access to and from the terminals. At this point, I think it is becoming clear to the region's or at least to Missouir leadership that Lambert's location, capacity, and access/connections to the region's existing transportation network is a huge asset
Maybe the silver lining in all this, a decent discussion by the region on addressing a long term plan for the terminals and access to and from the terminals. At this point, I think it is becoming clear to the region's or at least to Missouir leadership that Lambert's location, capacity, and access/connections to the region's existing transportation network is a huge asset
Lambert gets its first insurance check. They are expecting to only have to pay a $100,000 deductible:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... f6878.html
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... f6878.html
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I always thought that the archways found in Gaudi's Casa Batllo should be found somewhere in St. Louis. I can imagine concourses with catenary archs.
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Obvioulsy the scale would need to be increased.
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Lately AA has been using C2, C6, C10, C12, and C16. None of the other gates are still AA.dredger wrote:I haven't done the leg work, but I believe AA will be using less gates in D then they were using C. Biz journal article stated that a AA will use a total of five gates in D. I hope AA doesn't see this isn't an opportunity to drop more service in the long run
Thanks, for some reason I thought they were using more gates in C Concourse even after their latest cutback.jmstokes wrote:Lately AA has been using C2, C6, C10, C12, and C16. None of the other gates are still AA.dredger wrote:I haven't done the leg work, but I believe AA will be using less gates in D then they were using C. Biz journal article stated that a AA will use a total of five gates in D. I hope AA doesn't see this isn't an opportunity to drop more service in the long run
One more-- C8. (C8, C10, and C12 are all in the same little "armpit")dredger wrote:Thanks, for some reason I thought they were using more gates in C Concourse even after their latest cutback.jmstokes wrote:Lately AA has been using C2, C6, C10, C12, and C16. None of the other gates are still AA.dredger wrote:I haven't done the leg work, but I believe AA will be using less gates in D then they were using C. Biz journal article stated that a AA will use a total of five gates in D. I hope AA doesn't see this isn't an opportunity to drop more service in the long run
Thoughts on this? I'd love to see C removed entirely, D refurbished, and a new airside connection between A, B, and D established. Remodel A, B, and D, and you've got a pretty nice little airport, plus easy passage through a number of security areas at A, B, D, and E (if they reconnect).
From Flyertalk:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american ... pdate.html
STL Update
First, according to a couple contractors/security personnel (not TSA), Terminal C will be completely demolished and rebuilt. The whole structure was moved approximately 6 inches and is unstable. The insurance people kicked all the contractors out yesterday.
Terminal D is being prepared for the medium haul. Restaurants/bars were preparing to open and new support structure/carpet/etc. was being installed throughout the terminal.
The Admirals Club will most likely open in the old "Cheers" restaurant space near the entrance of D. They do not expect it to be large, but want something to keep the members happy.
They may open Terminal D all the way to the East Terminal (Southwest) again.
There is a general feeling among the employees that while the tornado was terrible, it may bring about some rather big positives--and perhaps a new AA commitment to St. Louis.
From Flyertalk:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american ... pdate.html
STL Update
First, according to a couple contractors/security personnel (not TSA), Terminal C will be completely demolished and rebuilt. The whole structure was moved approximately 6 inches and is unstable. The insurance people kicked all the contractors out yesterday.
Terminal D is being prepared for the medium haul. Restaurants/bars were preparing to open and new support structure/carpet/etc. was being installed throughout the terminal.
The Admirals Club will most likely open in the old "Cheers" restaurant space near the entrance of D. They do not expect it to be large, but want something to keep the members happy.
They may open Terminal D all the way to the East Terminal (Southwest) again.
There is a general feeling among the employees that while the tornado was terrible, it may bring about some rather big positives--and perhaps a new AA commitment to St. Louis.