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^Never have been to Bogarts before. Went to Pappy’s one day and wasn’t impressed by it. Sugarfire and Salt+Smoke are my go-to places back at home. In Kansas City, Chef J BBQ is the winner in my book and exceeds all other BBQ I’ve had literally anywhere. My second favorite place is Salt+Smoke.

Instead of it being KC vs STL BBQ, let’s just make it Missouri BBQ vs everyone else. We’re solid no matter what city or town you go to here.

If you haven't had Stellar Hog, please do so.  Especially on Leona.  Absolutely killer Texas-style brisket.  The old guard doesn't treat brisket well.. thinly sliced, maybe to veil it as properly cooked, no bark, just kind of wet, sloppy, and sliced like roast beef.  I also had the Belleville location of Beast and the pork steak sandwich absolutely murders.  I need to give the Grove location some more tries.

I do love Bogart's tri-tip and pastrami, and ribs.  Same for Pappy's.  Adam's burnt ends are incredible.

In comparison, I tried Gates and Arthur Bryant's.. both basically cafeteria food which was a big bummer as I had waited years to try them as heralded brands (one as the birthplace of burnt ends which were tough as leather).  KC has some great BBQ but STL dry rub and basted/seared style will always be superior to me.  Regionally, two very different styles and methodologies IMO.  We are more Memphis than KC in my estimation.  But some shops do take a lot of prep techniques from Texas.  Best of both worlds.

STL being shown a little love...

https://937thebull.iheart.com/content/2 ... s-to-live/

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Mar 24, 2023

^Never have been to Bogarts before. Went to Pappy’s one day and wasn’t impressed by it. Sugarfire and Salt+Smoke are my go-to places back at home. In Kansas City, Chef J BBQ is the winner in my book and exceeds all other BBQ I’ve had literally anywhere. My second favorite place is Salt+Smoke.

Instead of it being KC vs STL BBQ, let’s just make it Missouri BBQ vs everyone else. We’re solid no matter what city or town you go to here.

I agree! I follow this guy on YouTube and he considers Missouri to have the best BBQ in the US--calling both KC and STL the "one two punch" that puts us in the top spot. 

But while Kansas City has long had some great BBQ establishments St. Louis really didn't have too many twenty years ago. I remember at the time my girlfriend's dad in town from Iowa asked about where we could get some " of that great STL BBQ" he heard about and we struggled to find places to go . I think at that time Q here was done mostly at home. 

the parking lot map
https://parkingreform.org/resources/parking-lot-map/

Mmmmmm . . . Pork Steaks.

framer wrote:Mmmmmm . . . Pork Steaks.

*pArk steaks


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Yeah I think when KCers say let’s do BBQ, they mean going to a restaurant. Whereas in St Louis when we say let’s do BBQ, we mean let’s cook on a grill in our back yards.


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Super Smokers was winning national championships in the 90s

I realize that The Daily Mail is tabloid trash; nevertheless, it's discouraging to see this kind of headline:

"America's new ghost towns revealed: Crime-ridden San Francisco, St. Louis and Portland remain deserted as downtowns elsewhere bounce back"

The Mail is the largest-circulation paper in the UK, so an awful lot of people are going to see this. On the other hand, maybe it's not such a bad thing to be associated with cities like San Francisco and Portland. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -back.html

It's The Daily Mail, they're gonna sh*t on cities with minority populations and find justifications later.

What an exaggerated bit of tabloid trash, indeed.

I interviewed a REAL Time Lord (in St. Louis!)
The Moll's clock in downtown St. Louis MO
(careful could be drivel!)
https://youtu.be/H-nb8HtpsuE

^The video is honestly fairly cool.

CONGRATS! The new ultrasound study, led by bioengineer Hong Chen and her team at Washington University in St. Louis 
https://www.science.org/content/article ... tion-state

The National Eating Disorders Association is shutting its telephone helpline down, firing its small staff and hundreds of volunteers. Instead it's using a chatbot — and not because the bot is better.

WELLS: Now, NEDA says that it can't discuss employee matters, and staff and volunteers say that they worry there's no way a chatbot is going to be able to give people the kind of human empathy that comes from a human. And the people who made Tessa agree.
ELLEN FITZSIMMONS-CRAFT: I do think that we wrote her to attempt to be empathetic, but it is not, again, a human.
WELLS: This is Dr. Ellen Fitzsimmons-Craft Craft. She's a professor of psychiatry at Washington University's medical school. NEDA paid her team to create Tessa a few years ago. And right now the chatbot can walk a user through a specific series of therapeutic techniques about something like body image.
FITZSIMMONS-CRAFT: It's not an open-ended tool for you to talk to and feel like you're just going to have access to kind of a listening ear, maybe like the helpline was.

One Hundred Mention: CBS Sunday Morning

^ Nothing spectacular, but One Hundred gets a moment of attention in this segment for CBS Sunday about Jeanne Gang and her firm. 

Nice article from Forbes on Grand Center as an emerging national arts center:

America’s Most Exciting Emerging Arts District Is In... St Louis?

Official UrbanStl Swifty.

If you’re not following, Taylor Swift is currently performing one of the most successful tours, maybe of all time. 44-47 songs over 3.5 hours of non-stop athletic artistry. *steps off soap box*

What’s this got to do with STL? Song 26, “the last great American dynasty” follows the story of St. Louisan Rebekah Harkness. Swift famously owns Rebekah’s Rhode Island mansion. The song tells Rebekah’s story while drawing parallels to Swifts experience as owner.

I was surprised the song was even included in the set list. Regardless, hearing a crowd of 55,000+ scream “Her saltbox house on the coast took her mind off St. Louisssss” nearly brought me to tears at her show in Chicago. To think… it’s happening every show, every city, and eventually multiple South American and European countries…..What great exposure!

It’s a story song. Don’t expect to jam out. Just appreciate that Taylor is a bit of a history nerd who cares enough about her home to write a song about it.