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Moorlander wrote:Anyone else a little nervous about a backlash of racism directed at the Chinese? I mean, we aren't the most accepting of peoples.

Speaking in broad generalities: You've never seen racism like national Chinese racism. It's beyond xenophobic to a level near manifest destiny and quasi-divination. While one can assume that whoever comes here is well-versed in globalist cultural "protocol", it will be their adjustment to our multicultural environment that will be of a greater impact than of our having a whole lot more East Asians running around.



That noted, you guys can sure as hell eliminate the idea of Chinese people moving broadly into North City. Why would they leave their luxurious high rises in Guangzhou to move to a very impoverished area with a culture they have no way of understanding and are apt to revile? Any problem regarding race in the "Big Idea" is not going to be JeffCo guys chuckling about watching out for their dogs being stolen, it'll be the Chinese questioning urban black culture.



Bring them all on. Melting pot, baby.

^ Beat me to it. I was going to add the same thing that most of the adjustment probably won't be towards bigot JeffCo neanderthals...that's more than likely expected....they'll likely have a large slap on the face when dealing with many aspects of african american inner city culture than anything.



This is speaking from experience with the Vietnamese community.

^ Are you playing coy or do you really not know much?



Just for one: Monsanto may hold to key to feeding a billion Chinese and staving off a popular revolt for that country.

Arch_Genesis wrote:^^^ What exactly are they going to question about urban black culture? Also if they're not settling in North City, where are they going to get the opportunity to do this questioning? This is directed at Gone Corporate, I can tell Phoaddict still has some anger issues.



That being said, I think a sizable influx of Chinese into a broader Asian community presents a real opportunity to bridge cultures, like never before. I'm actually pretty excited and hope that opportunity happens. I mean Yao Ming is still in the NBA and Kobe is adored in China.



Anywho, I'm just curious what urban black culture is and why its going to be a culture shock?

I'd rather not start. Plus, I think it will sway the conversation way off topic and people won't like to hear what I have to say. Gone Corporate, by all means...



It seems so funny because basically we are predicting how an influx Chinese immigrants coming here based on this deal would react to our city's culture, when there are already so many immigrants from China who have settled here...and Korea, and Vietnam, etc. I'm sure these new immigrants wouldn't react too differently, and more than likely form a communal enclave. I think Chicago's south-west loop is a good example of what would more than likely happen vs. a suburban bell-aire in Houston.

AG: I'm not getting into this one. It will only derail this thread from economic development into the nature of nationalistic & quasi-nationalistic psychological interactions and interrelations. I recommend picking up a book on cross-cultural understanding; I have a great one at home the title of which escapes me, but PM me and I'll pass you the title.

Hey, can we start a "nature of nationalistic & quasi-nationalistic psychological interactions and interrelations" thread?

Grover wrote:Hey, can we start a "nature of nationalistic & quasi-nationalistic psychological interactions and interrelations" thread?

No. I'm trying to get out of the office right now to get to Chicago and don't have the time. Ask me again next week if you like.

phoaddict wrote:I think Chicago's south-west loop is a good example of what would more than likely happen vs. a suburban bell-aire in Houston.

For the record, Houston's Asiatown is not in Bellaire, Texas. Asiatown is located in Sharpstown and Alief along Bellaire Boulevard, which is a lengthy street. Both Sharpstown and Alief are neighborhoods located in the City of Houston. However, parts of Alief are in Ft. Bend County - not Harris County.

newstl2020 wrote:

stl1991 wrote:I don't know how you couldn't see that being cultural shock. One group is more shy and hard working and one is loud brass and not as hard working. Ill let u figure out which one is which.

OOOOoof.

I hope 1991 is the year you were born - perhaps the only somewhat viable excuse for such a statement - youth. Not that I'm an ageist or anything!



I would love to see 50,000 Chinese move into the metro area, but that's not going to be the reality. There are significant immigrant communities from many Asian communities in St. Louis and a few hundred Chinese will fit right in.

stl1991 wrote:I don't know how you couldn't see that being cultural shock. One group is more shy and hard working and one is loud brass and not as hard working. Ill let u figure out which one is which.

*cough*

I think the largest impact will come with several large Chinese firms establishing NA headquarters here in St. Louis. These are likely firms that basically none of us have heard of - given that there are cities of 3M+ in China that none of us have heard of! Second, we'll add labor intensive, high-tech manufacturing/assembly jobs to produce goods bound for China.



Does anyone think that this opportunity and the Martin airpark on the eastside are linked at all? I mean only in the sense that if one happens it makes the other more likely?