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Cardinals waved the white flag.



Time for hockey.

^On MLB network last night,one of the commentators, a former player with experience at Chavez Ravine, said that he noticed Holliday pointing to the sky for a second after the play. He said in his experience, balls get lost in the smog and lights out there in LA. He thinks that played a part in him dropping the ball. I do not blame Holliday and anyone who does is an idiot. He is a big reason we even got to the playoffs and he hit a home run last night. The reason we lost and wasted Wainwright's great outing, was the lack of clutch hitting with RISP. It will take a monumental effort to get through this series. Let's say for some reason they do, they will be screwed in the NLCS. They would have to use Carp and Waino to get out of this series. That leaves Joel Pinero as the game 1 starter in the NLCS. At this point, I am not counting on the Cards getting past LA, but stranger things have happened. I am still hoping for the best.



GO CARDS



PS_Could there have been a worse night in sports. Only thing that could have made it worse, would be if the Scottrade escalator would have really hurt or killed anyone, including me...

I can't remember the last time I was this mad at anyone not named Isringhausen.

i'm optimistic as well. but i'm not having a good feeling on franklin. in a situation like this, bring in smoltz to do the closing.

Guess when I expressed my concerns with the Cards back on September 16th, my concerns were warranted. Guess the whole 'sky is falling' cartoon thing that Dweebe posted shouldn't have been used in that sarcastic manner. The sky really is falling now!! [/img]

I consider myself to be a pretty big Blues fan but I left the home opener last night shortly after watching that horrifying end to the redbirds game in the clark street lounge. There is no way I could enjoy the rest of the game after that punch in the gut. And to think I made it home just in time for the 4th quarter of the Mizzou game. FML!





As devastated as I am by the game last night, I hope Holliday gets a standing ovation when he comes to bat on Saturday for a few reasons -



1. we don't booo our Cardinals for one mistake, no matter how horrific

2. Holliday and the rest of the redbirds are still good enough to to win 3 in a row, even if the odds are against us. Nothing against the Dodgers, but the Redbirds gave away those 2 games.

3. We want Holliday back, at a discount, and a round of applause after someting like that would truly show the kind of town we are.

^I agree, standing O for Holliday on Sat. He is the player that put us ahead of the pack in the Central and propelled us into the playoffs. He will remember the fans when he is signing on the dotted line for 15-20 mill a year.

Yup, while he shanked that catch which arguably lost the game, we wouldn't have won without his home run. Still, I feel like I need to say: ***** Cardinals. Agh@!@!!! Also, did anyone notice how many empty seats there were at Dodger Stadium last night? They don't deserve to win if their fans can't be bothered to come out and support them in the playoffs. Also, ***** Man Ram.

The Holliday line was sarcasm, for all who commented above.



Any sports-fan knows that he was instrumental in our post-season bid this year. Come on guys (or gals).



And for all commenting about Franklin in response to my comment, Wainright should have finished, like I said.

I wouldn't give Holliday a standing ovation, but I wouldn't boo him either.



I'll save the booing for when he comes back to STL with the Mets next year.

I can't be too upset with Matt Holliday, especially not when he is one of the key reasons the Cardinals made the playoffs in the first place.



I can't blame Franklin either, although I agree he should've bounced back from Holliday's error to get the final out.



These last two games were lost due to a lack of clutch hitting with RISP- a problem that the Cardinals have been unable to shake since the last road trip of the season began in mid-September. Add a few insurance runs, and Cardinals fans would be laughing about Holliday's blunder. Dogtown was right about the team then, and that's when we heard proclamations from the players about how that was the right time to have a slump, or something to that effect. Well, that may have been true, but they haven't cleared the cobwebs yet, and the result is the most pathetic Cardinals playoff series since the 2004 World Series against the Boston Red Sox.



So what will actually happen- will the Cardinals win this series? Or will the Rams win their first game on Sunday?

I disagree. Waino was out of gas. Had he had an uneventful 8th inning then send him back out for the 9th. However he loaded the bases and was tiring fast. Bringing in Miller to face Ethier (who had already homered off Waino) was the safe bet.



Franklin had the 3rd out but Holliday dropped the ball. Franklin has to be tougher in those situations and not let it bother him.

Hold on to you hats for a comeback of historic proportions!!!

Lookie here... The Cardinals and Cubs both won the same number of games in the post-season. A bit, fat, zeroooooo.

If you believe in numerical anomalies, we now have 11 years until the Cardinals can win another championship.

Very impressive run. Just as, if not more impressive than the 80's, considering the fact that STL is considered a 'mid-market' franchise. I just wish they could have gotten to the WS and won one more. They were so close. The 80's should have brought us 2 world championships. Which decade you feel is more impressive is up for debate.

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:Very impressive run. Just as, if not more impressive than the 80's, considering the fact that STL is considered a 'mid-market' franchise. I just wish they could have gotten to the WS and won one more. They were so close. The 80's should have brought us 2 world championships. Which decade you feel is more impressive is up for debate.

I have to think this decade was more impressive. The Cards were competitive almost every year of the decade, which cannot be said for Whitey's teams.



At the same time, in addition to our three postseason appearances in the 80s, we got jobbed in the strike year of 81 - we finished with the best combined record, but finished in second place in both halves of the split season, so we didn't get to advance to the playoffs.

DeBaliviere wrote:I have to think this decade was more impressive. The Cards were competitive almost every year of the decade, which cannot be said for Whitey's teams.

I'd have to agree with that. And just think- we have just as many World Series titles (1) during this decade as the Yankees*!



(*Yeah, I know, the Yankees still have a chance to win this year, which would make two championships this decade, just like the Boston Red Sox. But personally, I'm hoping for an all-Los Angeles area World Series, although that's not looking so good right now.)

Well, Pujols is having elbow surgery in Birmingham(?) today, so if there is other news in St. Louis today, don't count on hearing about it.



(Side note: I am going to be pissed if neither Los Angeles team gets to the World Series. I can't stand the Yankees, and despite the presence of Ryan Howard, I never liked the Phillies either. Besides, they won last year, and I would hate to see them win two World Series in a row. A good portion of Philadelphia's population makes our hoosiers look not so bad, you know.)