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PostOct 26, 2009#226

Awesome. This will send a great message to the children of St. Louis. Do drugs in order to get ahead, don't own up to it (by being a little weasel in Congress) and get ahead. You too can slam a bazillion home runs and later become the Cards hitting coach. Bravo!!!



I have little respect for Mark McGwire. He needs to own up to his past before he can gain the public's respect.

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^I understand that, but I'm looking at it a little differently. Obviously, McGwire's name has been tainted and he is almost like a taboo around St. Louis. I think it says something about getting back up and moving on. Though, I do believe that in order for him to do that he needs to own up. Look at A-Rod. All of that crap earlier in the season about him using steroids? No one really cares anymore. He took responsibility, moved on, and helped get his team to the World Series.

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^ I agree fully. But "Big Mac" has never owned up and the Cards' front office hired him despite it. Their collective mistake (and it's not a small one.) Ethics and public relations, anyone???



In related news, plans are underway to give away 20,000 promotional syringes at the gate.




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PostOct 26, 2009#229

^ Could be worse, we could have hired Slamm'n Sammy Sosa. He cheated and cheated.

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PostOct 26, 2009#230

Moorlander wrote:^ Could be worse, we could have hired Slamm'n Sammy Sosa. He cheated and cheated.


Cork? What cork?

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PostOct 27, 2009#231

dweebe wrote:
Moorlander wrote:^ Could be worse, we could have hired Slamm'n Sammy Sosa. He cheated and cheated.


Cork? What cork?


Oh, you slo-peds, that's the bat he uses for batting practice!





because that makes a lot of sense


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PostOct 27, 2009#232

Moorlander wrote:^ Could be worse, we could have hired Slamm'n Sammy Sosa. He cheated and cheated.
That's cool and all, but there's a lot of bad sentiment in Chicago for Sammy. Until McGwire owns up and apologizes to the children, may he get booed each and every home game. The man can run from the truth but he can't hide. This will haunt Big Mac for the rest of his life (You notice that A-Rod was smart enough to own up to his steroid use, and look how the unencumbered star is doing now - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/a ... le1339472/)

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PostOct 27, 2009#233

Shimmy wrote:Obviously, McGwire's name has been tainted and he is almost like a taboo around St. Louis. I think it says something about getting back up and moving on. Though, I do believe that in order for him to do that he needs to own up. Look at A-Rod. All of that crap earlier in the season about him using steroids? No one really cares anymore. He took responsibility, moved on, and helped get his team to the World Series.


That's the ticket. Why won't McGwire man up and admit to it? The media has a short memory and an even shorter attention span, so it wouldn't have been nearly as big of a deal if McGwire had cleared the air before now. As it stands, I'm not even sure he's going to agree to a press conference. I don't know if he is afraid to acknowledge his past mistakes, or if he thinks he's above the issue. I have nothing against him personally, but either way, I'm not impressed.

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PostOct 27, 2009#234

Remember the "Curse of the Billy Goat" in Chicago?


La Russa said he first contacted McGwire about the coaching job a week earlier, when he was still supposedly mulling his future. He said McGwire showed immediate interest, but the manager said the steroids topic was not broached.



"It's up to Mark how he wants to handle it," La Russa said. "What we want him to do is coach our hitters, and if he does that well, we're going to be happy."


Apparently La Russa, the GM & owner care more about winning than ethical standards. You heard it here first. This is the beginning of their curse -- the Cardinals won't win another World Series for at least 100 years. The "Curse of the Bloody Syringe!" ;)

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PostOct 27, 2009#235

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Moorlander wrote:^ Could be worse, we could have hired Slamm'n Sammy Sosa. He cheated and cheated.
That's cool and all, but there's a lot of bad sentiment in Chicago for Sammy. Until McGwire owns up and apologizes to the children, may he get booed each and every home game. The man can run from the truth but he can't hide. This will haunt Big Mac for the rest of his life (You notice that A-Rod was smart enough to own up to his steroid use, and look how the unencumbered star is doing now - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/a ... le1339472/)


McGwire is the batting coach and will barely be seen on the field: so how is he going to be booed each and every game?



He'll be on the field an hour or two before the game when batting practice is occuring. Then after that he'll be under the stands working with the guys in the batting cage. At best he'll be in the dugout for a short period before someone goes into the ondeck circle and he needs to say one last thing.

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PostOct 27, 2009#236

^ Right, so apparently he can hide in the stadium. Interesting article on this saga in Deadspin: http://deadspin.com/5390030/the-mark-mc ... begins-now

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innov8ion wrote:^ Right, so apparently he can hide in the stadium.


The only managers/coaches that should be on the field during the game are:

-manager

-pitching coach

-1st and 3rd base coaches



Do you expect him to operate differently that any other MLB team hitting coach? Or to satisfy you does he need to ago above and beyond the job of a hitting coach? Are you demanding he walk out to the mound and take the ball from the pitcher or argue calls with the umpires? Would that make you happy? I'm not defending what he did; but I'm trying to figure out what would make you feel better.

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PostOct 27, 2009#238

innov8ion wrote:Remember the "Curse of the Billy Goat" in Chicago?



[Apparently La Russa, the GM & owner care more about winning than ethical standards. You heard it here first. This is the beginning of their curse -- the Cardinals won't win another World Series for at least 100 years. The "Curse of the Bloody Syringe!" ;)


Yep, heard it a million times. In fact just last week grabbed a juicy burger at the Billy Goat. For fun let's say the Cardinals are cursed for 100 years...They would still likely win one before those lovable losers on the north side.

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PostOct 27, 2009#239

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innov8ion wrote:^ Right, so apparently he can hide in the stadium.


The only managers/coaches that should be on the field during the game are:

-manager

-pitching coach

-1st and 3rd base coaches



Do you expect him to operate differently that any other MLB team hitting coach? Or to satisfy you does he need to ago above and beyond the job of a hitting coach? Are you demanding he walk out to the mound and take the ball from the pitcher or argue calls with the umpires? Would that make you happy? I'm not defending what he did; but I'm trying to figure out what would make you feel better.
I feel perfectly fine, thanks. It doesn't matter whether McGwire is on or off the field. The fact is that the Cardinals hired a man that cheated to get ahead, was a weasel in Congress, and sets a bad example for our children. He should sincerely apologize because he may be able to hide in Busch Stadium but he can't hide from his own conscience.

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PostOct 27, 2009#240

I think he will soon. It's the only way he can perform his job.

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PostNov 19, 2009#241

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commis ... ng-winner/



What a Joke, Cards aces snubbed. Guess they cancelled out each others votes. To me, this is another case of a coast bias. How can you overlook Carp and Waino. Looks like ESPN made this decision for the voters.



http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4667727



ESPN'S CHOICE:



TIM LINCECUM



VOTING TOTALS: Lincecum (10), Carpenter (6), Wainwright (5)

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PostNov 19, 2009#242

.......and baseball's statistical nerds rejoice.

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PostNov 20, 2009#243

You know, I was for Waino in the beginning, but researching further since the announcement, I honestly think that, statistics wise, it should have went to Carp. Lincecum lead Carp in innings pitched, strikeouts, and opponents batting average against. Carp had a better ERA, WHIP, and most importantly, record. Some would point to Lincecum's record as being a result of pour run support, but his run support average 5.83 while Carp's was 5.84. .01 of a run is the difference between 15-7 and 17-4?



But, I think more should go into the process than just statistics. If Carp would have made the two ballots that he was left off with all together he would have won. One guy left him off because he thought that the Cardinals had a better defense than the Giants and that helped Carpenter. So now we're punishing guys for being on a good team?

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PostNov 20, 2009#244

Apparently the voters (some) have now discounted wins completely. Wins are no longer a major determining factor when awarding the Cy Young. I would compare, team records, run support, blown saves etc... If they are comparable, I would say wins are very important. Yes, the stat geeks have taken over most sports, thanks to fantasy sports.

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PostNov 20, 2009#245

I hate Keith Law.

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PostApr 08, 2010#246

F'ing Jason Motte!!!! If I'm not mistaken, he blew last years opening day game.
When are the Cards going to invest in a closer. A real closer can be used in any late inning situation. Great run support today boys! I am very concerned about the bullpen. You got guys like Motte and other questionable guys, then you got Franklyn bringing up the rear. If there is a weakness, that tops the list. I am sure RF will be on a short leash. I am starting to think that Chris Perez trade may come back to bite us. I'd even take Smoltz back as the closer, if he'd come back. I hope they fix the BP before it is too late!

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PostApr 08, 2010#247

You're not wrong but you have to remember that it's baseball. It's a long season.

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PostApr 08, 2010#248

^True, but many said that last year and it never corrected itself. The problem with the pen festered and became a major weakness. So many blown saves last year. I have NO confidence in Franklyn, Motte, Boggs and many others in that pen. That is one area they really didn't address in the offseason. I know it is a long season, but this is pretty much the same pen as last year. I feel it is a weakness and felt that way before todays blown save.

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PostApr 08, 2010#249

Motte to Memphis ASAP. It's too bad we couldn't have kept Perez and shipped Motte to Cleveland in the DeRosa deal instead.

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PostApr 08, 2010#250

^ What a piece of cr@p trade that turned out to be. We got an injured rental and lost a potential future closer. I hope that trade isn't another Haren deal....then again, could any trade be worse than the Haren for Mulder deal!!?!! I saw Derrick Barton, one of the other guys in that deal is now starting for the A's. Not sure if he is a solid starter, but I know he was a very good hitter when the Cards traded him. What a bum deal. I think the Derosa deal would have been better if he was healthy. They may have considered signing him if that was the case. The negative would have been that the signing may have been at the expense of Holiday.

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