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PostApr 16, 2020#201

The institution types generally like to hog all contiguous land to create gigantic campuses. Would be surprised (pleasantly) if they gave up ownership of this building.

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PostApr 16, 2020#202

Is there any sort of new outpatient extended-stay residential / hotel planned for the new medical campus?  Something like what Queeny Tower used to be, perhaps?

I don't know if they could justify the expense, but that could fill a good portion of the tower.

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PostAug 30, 2020#203

New SSM/SLU Hospital is getting ready to open:
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 1010d.html




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PostApr 09, 2021#204

The facility is impressive. Can’t help but point out how the contrast with historic architecture elevates it even more.
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PostApr 09, 2021#205

A few random shots (I’m here waiting for a family member getting a procedure in case you wonder...)
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PostApr 10, 2021#206

^I hope your family member is well. My thoughts are with you and they.

And yes, the interior looks clean and modern and generally nice. Got a nice view of it driving east on Chouteau yesterday. It fills the space nicely, but I have to wonder how much better still it would look if Peavley were still standing.

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PostApr 10, 2021#207

Absolutely. The Pevely was a needless, shortsighted loss for sure.

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PostApr 10, 2021#208

 I feel Pevely was torn down just because the people that run SLU  don't want the school to look like its in the 'City". To please rich sensitive parents. 

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PostApr 11, 2021#209

While I'm sure that's a narrative some here want to subscribe to, I don't think it holds much water.  64% of the most recent SLU undergraduate class came from outside Missouri (I tried to see if graduate programs had the same break down, but couldn't track that down). I'd argue that Pevely was torn down because SLU's previous leadership preferred to have blank slates as part of their land banking plan - to cut down on maintenance costs and speed up development once opportunities arose. Terrible urban policy none the less, but not purposefully nefarious / meant to cave to "rich sensitive parents". 

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PostApr 11, 2021#210

^ you're probably right, but I'm almost positive that Biondi was quoted saying that his goal was to make the campus more pastoral. I'll see if I can dig it up.

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PostApr 11, 2021#211

^ I definitely remember a "pastoral" comment from Biondi or someone with SLU several years back.

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PostApr 12, 2021#212

Still, “pastoral” and “caving to rich sensitive parents” are two totally different reasons.

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PostApr 12, 2021#213

^ i don't know Biondi's motivation, be it his personal preference for rural landscapes or an attempt to appease rich sensitive parents by eliminating perceived city grit. i'm just telling you what he said.

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PostApr 12, 2021#214

symphonicpoet wrote:
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^I hope your family member is well. My thoughts are with you and they.
Didn’t mean to skim over your kindness. They are doing better. Thank you

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PostApr 12, 2021#215

^Glad to hear that! No worries. I derailed the thread slightly with that aside.

To get back on topic, I'd say that "making the place more pastoral" and "eliminating city grit" would do well as local code for appeasing rich sensitive suburbanites. And I expect lots of other cities have similarly sensitive suburbanites. They're not strictly a local phenomenon. Sure, there's a lot of foreign student growth these days, but that was less the case when Father Wreck it Larry started his tenure.

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PostApr 13, 2021#216

symphonicpoet wrote:
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^Glad to hear that! No worries. I derailed the thread slightly with that aside.

To get back on topic, I'd say that "making the place more pastoral" and "eliminating city grit" would do well as local code for appeasing rich sensitive suburbanites. And I expect lots of other cities have similarly sensitive suburbanites. They're not strictly a local phenomenon. Sure, there's a lot of foreign student growth these days, but that was less the case when Father Wreck it Larry started his tenure.
That attitude was hardly limited to Biondi and his Illuminati, as I have yet to see any indication that anything has really changed at SLU since his departure. Theyallowed the Steelcote restoration. They allowed the restoration of 1500 S. Grand. They allowed the adjacent residential neighborhood to continue to exist and develop as a neighborhood.

The fact that those are the positives pretty much says it all.

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PostApr 13, 2021#217

^No argument from me on any of the above counts. I was none too pleased when SLU was put in charge of handing out building and demolition permits around SLU medical. I really feel like an independent body, like Grand Center, would have been a much better choice.

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PostApr 13, 2021#218

^^Agreed. Any goodwill they still had was lost from the Pevely debacle. The failure of the Iron Hill project and now the talk of a QuikTrip at Grand & Lafayette aren't doing anything to build it back up. 

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PostJun 29, 2021#219

$25M ambulatory surgery center to begin construction in the fall. Its not the most beautiful building but at least it blocks some views of the garage.

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... pital.html

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PostJun 29, 2021#221

I don't hate it:

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PostJun 29, 2021#222

So, I guess that means SSM Health has two buildings that will be/are available for redevelopment in the future. The Desloge Tower and 1755 South Grand. 

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PostJun 29, 2021#223

The 1755 S Ground (what SSM & SLU currently call the South Campus) has been planned to be moved out of and sold for quite some time now.  Was never really an ideal space for medical offices.

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PostJun 29, 2021#224

Yeah, atleast it adds to the street wall along Grand. I don’t hate it 🙂

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PostJun 30, 2021#225

Laife Fulk wrote:
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The 1755 S Ground (what SSM & SLU currently call the South Campus) has been planned to be moved out of and sold for quite some time now.  Was never really an ideal space for medical offices.
I knew someone that worked in that building. Everyone hated it.

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