^Yep. Love to slurp my ramen.
StlToday - Tony's, the downtown St. Louis fine-dining institution, looks to open in Clayton
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Probably a good move. I forgot that they were even still open downtown.
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Gerard Craft just said on Fox 2 that he expects St. Louis to lose 50% of its restaurants because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Ouch!!!! That sucks.... Not surprising though.
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30% but some will come back and ultimately 2 years from now we will have 80-85% compared to March 2020 and honestly a restaurant correction was coming after a decade of ridiculous growth since the last recession.DogtownBnR wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2020Gerard Craft just said on Fox 2 that he expects St. Louis to lose 50% of its restaurants because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Ouch!!!! That sucks.... Not surprising though.
Hopefully something less reliant on people driving in will replace it.
Stltoday- Fine-dining institution Tony's to leave downtown for Clayton
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Stltoday- Fine-dining institution Tony's to leave downtown for Clayton
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Not one mention of thanks to the city or downtown for the many years of success- just “Clayton is better and we’ve been planning to do this all along.” Kinda lousy if you ask me.
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It's sad to lose a storied institution like Tony's from Downtown, but I'm really not surprised. They were a bit slow to adapt to the modern fine diner's tastes IMHO. Also, I went to Anthony's bar next door a couple years ago and I wanted to like it, but the vibe was just weird. I think they need a reincarnation and hope they find success in Clayton.
I expect to see a significant shuffle of restaurants with the Covid pandemic and hopefully we'll see a rebirth of great new concepts downtown after it all blows over.
I expect to see a significant shuffle of restaurants with the Covid pandemic and hopefully we'll see a rebirth of great new concepts downtown after it all blows over.
Man, they really threw out every excuse they could think of. Surprised they didn't blame the Arch grounds renovation, gas prices, the metric system, or the Vietnam War as reasons they are leaving.
We'll look back in 5 years and think, that was the beginning of the end for Tony's.
^^^ Seriously. Didn't think I'd see the '08-'09 rebuild of Highway 40 mentioned as a reason for moving a restaurant out of downtown in 2020 lol.
I never went to Tony's when it was downtown...I honestly didn't even know it was still there. I won't go to it in Clayton either...and I live in Clayton.
I never went to Tony's when it was downtown...I honestly didn't even know it was still there. I won't go to it in Clayton either...and I live in Clayton.
Agreed. Love the idea of Tony's, but in reality I'll go to AL's or Charlie Gitto's on the Hill for an old school fine dining experience. Do you enjoy the Pick 6 podcast?STL.G.Unit wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2020It's sad to lose a storied institution like Tony's from Downtown, but I'm really not surprised. They were a bit slow to adapt to the modern fine diner's tastes IMHO. Also, I went to Anthony's bar next door a couple years ago and I wanted to like it, but the vibe was just weird. I think they need a reincarnation and hope they find success in Clayton.
I expect to see a significant shuffle of restaurants with the Covid pandemic and hopefully we'll see a rebirth of great new concepts downtown after it all blows over.
When did you go to Tony's then? It's always been downtown, unless you mean their old location at what is now Baer Plaza...sc4mayor wrote: ↑Apr 29, 2020I never went to Tony's when it was downtown...I honestly didn't even know it was still there. I won't go to it in Clayton either...and I live in Clayton.
The move out of downtown was inevitable after Vince died.
I wonder if Tony's resolved those pesky tax liens? They were in the multi-hundreds of thousands if I recall correctly.
Ha, from the history page of Tony's website (which doesn't look like it's been touched in several years):
He could also provide these details of most every person who has ever worked there, such as Rico Lonati their butcher for 40 years…and they still have a full-time butcher on staff, or Herbie Cray, who was with Tony’s for 25 years. He was a master at walking up the steps backwards as he led diners to the second floor dining room at the old location, which before it closed had expanded from the original small, simple storefront eatery with tin ceiling and linoleum floor to a complex of six connected buildings and a private parking lot. Vince’s brother Anthony, who started Anthony’s in the Equitable Building 35 years ago, also had mastered the art of going up those stairs in reverse fashion.
Today among many other loyal and dedicated employees there’s Richard Brown, valet for 17 years and Ken Bollewark, manager of the dining room with over 30 years tenure. Vince listed many, many more loyal and dedicated employees from then and now, such as Donnie Bond who supervises private parties and sous chef Gerard Germaine, but to Vince’s dismay, we just don’t have room to list them all. In these times there are few restaurants or businesses of any type that can boast of having employees who’ve been with them with them for such great periods of time. It’s yet another Tony’s secret.
If it were up to Vince, Tony’s would still be located on the east side of the 800 block of N. Broadway, but the city fathers felt this property was more important for the development related to the Cervantes Convention Center and Trans World Dome so Tony’s needed to move. The question on the minds of many was would Tony’s move to Clayton or West County? These far away environs didn’t have a hope, as Vince would never desert the downtown he so dearly loves. Even though they are long gone he felt both the soul of the vibrant environment of the past and the promise of new development. Seventeen years ago Tony’s made the move to the old Brooks Brothers Clothiers space in the Equitable Building at the southeast corner of S. Broadway and Market St.. He and Anthony were back together again. Vince’s devotion to downtown was again recently proven when he opted not to move to the Busch’s Grove property on Clayton Road.
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Total Wine is lobbying the state to repeal the cocktails-to-go regulation and Gerard Craft is none too pleased. I'm with Gerard.
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Apparently TW has a history of dirty lobbying nation-wide. This made me quite disappointed as I had converged to it being my favorite wine/liquor store, with plenty of variety from all over the world and no stupid pricing (looking at you Randall's).
^ What is stupid about their pricing? Just curious, it's the only liquor store I really go to anymore aside from the supermarket aisle.
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Restaurants offering alcohol as part of a delivery or pick up isn’t something I have issue with but offering it as “to go” after someone has been at the bar for a few hours is when this becomes deadly.
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No one is advocating for this. And Total Wine's interest has nothing to do with public safety. Moreover, serving inebriated patrons already carries shared liability for restaurants and bars in Missouri. It doesn't matter if you pour them a quick shot before they leave or mix them a margarita in styrofoam cup.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 13, 2020Restaurants offering alcohol as part of a delivery or pick up isn’t something I have issue with but offering it as “to go” after someone has been at the bar for a few hours is when this becomes deadly.
Widely volatile prices (at least on some types of liquor like Bourbon), often $5 or $10 above what other establishments are charging.bwcrow1s wrote: ↑May 13, 2020^ What is stupid about their pricing? Just curious, it's the only liquor store I really go to anymore aside from the supermarket aisle.
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Gamlin Whiskey House and SubZero Vodka bar closing for good. Another huge hit to the CWE
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