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PostNov 25, 2019#1

I can't seem to find a generic thread in which we can discuss restaurants across the metro, so I've opened this new thread. If there's a better place for a post like this, feel free to move it. 

There's a fantastic breakfast spot off of Gravois by the name of Egg. They announced over a year ago that they were looking to open another location at 3100 Locust, near the Fountain on Locust. 

Does anybody know if that's still happening? 

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PostNov 25, 2019#2

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I can't seem to find a generic thread in which we can discuss restaurants across the metro, so I've opened this new thread. If there's a better place for a post like this, feel free to move it. 

There's a fantastic breakfast spot off of Gravois by the name of Egg. They announced over a year ago that they were looking to open another location at 3100 Locust, near the Fountain on Locust. 

Does anybody know if that's still happening? 
I believe so- I saw the newly-installed blade sign on the building yesterday and the windows are papered over, so I assume the interior renovation is in progress.

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PostNov 27, 2019#3

I really like egg and I really liked Spare No Rib, and I really like the guys who run it, but I never understood why they needed separate spaces for the two separate concepts since former is a breakfast and brunch place and the latter was a dinner place. 

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PostNov 27, 2019#4

I've never been to Spare No Rib, and I actually just found out about the place when looking to find out more about Egg's second location. 

In trying to figure out more about Spare No Rib, I read that it has moved back into the Egg location at Gravois. 

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PostNov 27, 2019#5

Well that's good news. I didn't realize they re-opened after the Jefferson location closed. That should tell you how much we get out to eat now that we have kids. 

The quick history: Spare No Rib was the original name of the place in the Gravois space when it opened 5ish years ago. egg started as kind of a pop up thing, it turned out to be very popular so they expanded services to weekends and eventually weekdays. At some point they moved Spare No Rib into a dedicated location at Jefferson and Miami, and it closed after a year or so, and now Spare No Rib is back in the original space. The food and cocktails there are great.

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PostNov 27, 2019#6

I was seeing that he moved Spare No Rib back to the Gravois because he was letting a friend open some restaurant called Champ's in that space.

Champ's didn't last long.

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PostDec 02, 2019#7

Little Fox opening in Fox Park very soon

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/foodblo ... n-fox-park

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PostDec 06, 2019#8

Sugarfire is apparently about to expand to Dallas, Texas.

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PostDec 06, 2019#9

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Little Fox opening in Fox Park very soon

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/foodblo ... n-fox-park
They are currently in soft open, so feel free to try them out.  Good food, great wine list... 

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PostDec 07, 2019#10

River's Edge Social, which took over the long troubled Johnny Gitto's on Chippewa, seems to be thriving. I had concerns that the location (on the edge of River Des Peres without any nearby restaurants) would continue to be troubled but the owners seem to have figured out a working formula. 

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PostJan 02, 2020#11

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... e=facebook

Colino's, which replaced Amighetti's on The Hill, has closed. I'm hoping this means Amighetti's makes a comeback.

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PostJan 04, 2020#12

Never thought Amighetti's was very good to begin with.  Let some new life or concept come into the space.  There are plenty of small neighborhood joints to get a sandwich in the Hill that are years better.  That said, I haven't eaten at the Rock Hill location which apparently revamped the menu.  Hopefully whatever happens it will amount to either better sandwiches at Amighetti's on The Hill or new ideas.

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PostJan 05, 2020#13

Amighetti's was great 20 years ago, but things have really changed. It's definitely been passed by by most of the other sandwich shops on The Hill.

I'd say Gioia's, Eovaldi's, and Adriana's are currently world's better than anything Amighetti's or Colino's were serving out of that space.

The windows at the space are papered over and supposedly have the words, "Something special is coming."

I wonder if that's Amighetti's or if it's an entirely new concept.

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PostJan 13, 2020#14

1764 Public house is done

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PostJan 13, 2020#15

Not surprised. Went there a few times when it first opened in 2017 and always felt everything was overpriced by $2-3

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PostJan 13, 2020#16

Beautiful interior and their outdoor drink counter actually got some business, even till this fall. Other than that, over priced and not crazy about the food. 
I really hope someone basically keeps the interior as is. Maybe just paint a couple walls. 

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PostJan 27, 2020#17

I don’t follow the CWE bar and food scene as closely as I’d like. Are all of these closures related to any specific trend or is this just the natural ebbs and flows of the industry? I would guess that the CWE would be a good place to be for restaurants and bars, considering all of the new residential in recent years. Just curious if there is more to the closings… most recent 1764 and now Bar Louie.

https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/ ... 244d77e2ed

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PostJan 27, 2020#18

^ Bar Louie's parent filed for bankruptcy, that could be playing a role.  Outside of that, I've always considered the food at any Bar Louie I've been to be poor to mediocre at best and everything else overpriced.

1764 was a family business and closed because it's owners have two other places in the neighborhood (Gamiln's and Sub Zero) and had just spread themselves to thin, at least that's how they framed it to the paper.  The other two recent ones were because of the Chess Club expansion.

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PostJan 27, 2020#19

^All great points.

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PostJan 27, 2020#20

Bar Louie’s parent filed for BK but why did they close the CWE location while all others in the region remain open?

I used to think the CWE closures were from poor performance however this is becoming an alarming trend and am beginning to think otherwise.


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PostJan 27, 2020#21

^High rents in CWE?

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PostJan 27, 2020#22

I don't think there are any alarming trends in the CWE (outside the rising rents of course).  I was reading the Chicago Tribune today and several locations there closed too.  Overall 38 corporate locations were just closed in this round after the bankruptcy filing.  One of the shuttered Chicago locations was their Near North location which is a very big, dense, hip, and urban neighborhood as well.  Coincidentally, it was also where the very first Bar Louie was founded.  The comments in the Trib were pretty much the same that I've seen elsewhere (including in STL)...poor service, bad food, high prices, etc.  Seems more like an issue with the chain than any overarching trend in the CWE.

80% of restaurants don't make it past year 4.  I'm sure we'll see these spaces get filled pretty quickly.  Did we ever hear where Brennan's will be moving too?  Maybe they end up here...

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PostJan 27, 2020#23

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Bar Louie’s parent filed for BK but why did they close the CWE location while all others in the region remain open?

I used to think the CWE closures were from poor performance however this is becoming an alarming trend and am beginning to think otherwise.


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since 2018  (not just restaurants) 

Closed
Coffee Cartel
1764
Taze
Bissengers
Culpeppers
Fro Yo
The Tavern
Central Table
Llwellyns 
Bar Louis
Zza
Brennans 

Opened or about to
New Brennans
Up Down
Salt and Smoke
Re-Voaked
Kendra Scott
Blue Mercury
Yellowbelly
PokeDoke
Kaldis
West End Grill
Cocina Latina
The Hide Out
Rush Bowls
Zenwich
Ranoush (subbing out for Levent)

I think what you're seeing is a reset 

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PostJan 27, 2020#24

I’d argue that the ones lost are more prominent than the ones gained and more of a shift from a night out dining destination to lunch and specialty retail.

The Hideout is the Yellowbelly backroom event space.

Brennan’s has not announced a new location in the CWE so there’s no guarantee that’s happening.




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PostJan 27, 2020#25

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I’d argue that the ones lost are more prominent than the ones gained 
Are you saying that something that already exists is more well known than something that is new?

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