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the lack of visual interaction with the street is pretty disappointing and uninviting, but even with street-facing residential it's not like you can just walk up into peoples' yards and wander around.
I can think of one lawn on Portland Place that you definitely don't want to do that on.urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Nov 29, 2021the lack of visual interaction with the street is pretty disappointing and uninviting, but even with street-facing residential it's not like you can just walk up into peoples' yards and wander around.
Also, it's not a gated community in the sense that some others are, where the streets and sidewalks are the private property of the people who live there.
Seems like an intentional move. Wouldn’t want low-life pedestrians getting too comfortable on the sidewalks. This development signals a fort-like rejection of the surrounding community.debaliviere wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2021Some street trees along Olive would've been nice.
$250k building permit application submitted for new home at 3802 Olive
Olive is STILL closed to traffic. No reason it ever should have been in the first place. Ridiculous.
Four $250k building permit applications submitted for homes at
3738 OLIVE ST
3810 OLIVE ST
3812 OLIVE ST
3826 OLIVE ST
3738 OLIVE ST
3810 OLIVE ST
3812 OLIVE ST
3826 OLIVE ST
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Tragic. Where are the trees? Will be very oppressive on days like today to walk.SRQ2STL wrote:Latest streetscape.
Yeah, wild how they've gotten to close Olive for years to build what's basically a gated community and do a bad job on the sidewalks.
I was excited when first learning about this development cause of the architecture but now seeing how it really interacts (or doesnt) with its streetscape I don't really know how to feel
Trees would block those security cameras. Plus, you need a clean line of site from the guard towers.
This is a failing of city government. Sidewalk trees need to be a given for any development.
Is there a public tree lawn on this block? I think that usually if there are shade trees for the side walk, those are coming from the tree lawn between the sidewalk and the street or tree wells, not owners planting big shade trees in their yard (with the exception of some of the wealthy neighborhoods with deep lots and big trees in the front yard). Did this block used to have a tree lawn or tree wells that were not replaced, or is this development recapitulating what was already there?
^ Yes, there were tree wells at the curb line along the street. They were in rough shape, but present nonetheless. Those are gone now, and the only trees being planted appear to be inside of the development, set back from the sidewalk and road. Depending on species, some of these may eventually grow large enough to cast some shade onto the sidewalk, but not to the degree that existed previously, and should have been maintained.
The shade trees outlasted the people, but then someone had to come and correct that.
Certainly seems like they should have to replace the tree wells that were there before--oversight in the city's approval process, or developer not adhering to an agreed-upon plan?
Hell, if they can keep Olive closed for two years they can get away with anything.
















