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PostNov 29, 2021#176

Thanks for sharing the drone pictures. Here are some from the street level. I knew this was going to be a closed off style development on the south side of the street, but the north side of Olive should be more traditional (although with front yards).







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PostNov 29, 2021#177

the lack of visual interaction with the street is pretty disappointing and uninviting, but even with street-facing residential it's not like you can just walk up into peoples' yards and wander around.

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PostNov 29, 2021#178

urban_dilettante wrote:
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the lack of visual interaction with the street is pretty disappointing and uninviting, but even with street-facing residential it's not like you can just walk up into peoples' yards and wander around.
I can think of one lawn on Portland Place that you definitely don't want to do that on. 

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PostNov 29, 2021#179

Also, it's not a gated community in the sense that some others are, where the streets and sidewalks are the private property of the people who live there.

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PostNov 30, 2021#180

What a strange, strange development.

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PostNov 30, 2021#181

Some street trees along Olive would've been nice.

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PostNov 30, 2021#182

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Some street trees along Olive would've been nice.
Seems like an intentional move. Wouldn’t want low-life pedestrians getting too comfortable on the sidewalks. This development signals a fort-like rejection of the surrounding community.
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PostNov 30, 2021#183

Food Forest for the haves. Concrete Jungle for the have nots.

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PostFeb 11, 2022#184

$250k building permit application submitted for new home at 3802 Olive

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PostMar 26, 2022#185

Olive is STILL closed to traffic. No reason it ever should have been in the first place. Ridiculous.

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PostApr 28, 2022#186

Four $250k building permit applications submitted for homes at
3738 OLIVE ST
3810 OLIVE ST
3812 OLIVE ST
3826 OLIVE ST

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PostJun 16, 2022#187

Latest streetscape.
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PostJun 16, 2022#188

SRQ2STL wrote:Latest streetscape.
Tragic. Where are the trees? Will be very oppressive on days like today to walk.

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PostJun 16, 2022#189

Yeah, wild how they've gotten to close Olive for years to build what's basically a gated community and do a bad job on the sidewalks. 

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PostJun 17, 2022#190

I was excited when first learning about this development cause of the architecture but now seeing how it really interacts (or doesnt) with its streetscape I don't really know how to feel

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PostJun 17, 2022#191

Trees would block those security cameras. Plus, you need a clean line of site from the guard towers.

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PostJun 17, 2022#192

This is a failing of city government. Sidewalk trees need to be a given for any development.

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PostJun 17, 2022#193

Aren't there two trees in the photo?

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PostJun 17, 2022#194

Is there a public tree lawn on this block? I think that usually if there are shade trees for the side walk, those are coming from the tree lawn between the sidewalk and the street or tree wells, not owners planting big shade trees in their yard (with the exception of some of the wealthy neighborhoods with deep lots and big trees in the front yard). Did this block used to have a tree lawn or tree wells that were not replaced, or is this development recapitulating what was already there?

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PostJun 17, 2022#195

^ Yes, there were tree wells at the curb line along the street. They were in rough shape, but present nonetheless. Those are gone now, and the only trees being planted appear to be inside of the development, set back from the sidewalk and road. Depending on species, some of these may eventually grow large enough to cast some shade onto the sidewalk, but not to the degree that existed previously, and should have been maintained.

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PostJun 22, 2022#197

The shade trees outlasted the people, but then someone had to come and correct that.

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PostJun 23, 2022#198

Certainly seems like they should have to replace the tree wells that were there before--oversight in the city's approval process, or developer not adhering to an agreed-upon plan?

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PostJun 23, 2022#199

Hell, if they can keep Olive closed for two years they can get away with anything. 

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PostJan 06, 2023#200

A lot of land used for storm water swales around here that could have been used for buildings when the pavement on Olive and Vandeventer could have been used.
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