Perhaps MSD required a certain amount of on site permeable area? Haven’t seen it in person to know the specifics of the site design.quincunx wrote:A lot of land used for storm water swales around here that could have been used for buildings when the pavement on Olive and Vandeventer could have been used.
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Oh Gawd. Did they use the wrong arch windows? A small detail but quite disappointing if it’s so. Will have to checkout in person.
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So the swales are a good thing then at least in the grand scheme of flooding and the watershed. May be terrible urban design but it serves a purpose they just did the minimum to meet a requirement.quincunx wrote:MSD does.
Jeez . . . Olive is STILL closed to through traffic. There was never any reason to close it in the first place, but to keep it closed for over two years is just insane. Really irks the hell out of me.
So they're thinking they can sell these little 1 and 2 story homes for $700-980k + $400 HOA fee: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3834 ... 4476_zpid/
What a disappointing project.
What a disappointing project.
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Little? It’s 3150 square feet.PeterXCV wrote: ↑Mar 03, 2023So they're thinking they can sell these little 1 and 2 story homes for $700-980k + $400 HOA fee: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3834 ... 4476_zpid/
What a disappointing project.
I mean you can cite the square footage, maybe that's all people care about but just like literally looking at the houses, they are small. The only way they get up to that 2,900-3,100 range is by counting the basement square footage: https://www.liveonolive.com/
Literally every bedroom in this expensive house is smaller than the one I have renting for <$900/mo.
Literally every bedroom in this expensive house is smaller than the one I have renting for <$900/mo.
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When I attended their open house last year I recall that pre-sales were pretty good especially for the more expensive models.
I attended the open house today and 5 of the 8 homes that are completed are sold and currently occupied. Unique development that may not be everyones cup of tea, but the same can be said for most developments. Nonsuburban (no vinyl siding, etc.) new construction that are built relatively well are hard to come by and fetch a pretty penny per square foot. Point to any new construction in the central corridor that falls into this category and you'll see $270-$400+ per square foot pricing. Aside from the development particulars itself, I'm happy to see aspirational and inspirational attempts to create something unique. Cool infill for a region that often doesn't push the architectural adventurer envelope.
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The second offering in the "Community Tour Series" will focus on the "On Olive" Development this Thursday, May 11 at 5:30 PM Central.
Join our YAFSTL and AIA STL JEDI Committees, alongisde ULI St. Louis, as all have partnered to bring these "Community Tours", highlighting local communities and their respective neighborhoods.
Free for all to attend. Learn more and RSVP via this link - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/on-olive-d ... FK2skfdQqo
The second offering in the "Community Tour Series" will focus on the "On Olive" Development this Thursday, May 11 at 5:30 PM Central.
Join our YAFSTL and AIA STL JEDI Committees, alongisde ULI St. Louis, as all have partnered to bring these "Community Tours", highlighting local communities and their respective neighborhoods.
Free for all to attend. Learn more and RSVP via this link - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/on-olive-d ... FK2skfdQqo
The completed parts of this look nice, but there's still so much work to do. Olive is still closed, sidewalks aren't complete. Jeez. At least the car repair triangle at Spring and Olive is for sale. Hopefully someone buys it and builds something of interest there.
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Is that steel column a remnant from the old Beaumont Medical Building perhaps?
On Olive has made it into Architectural Record magazine.
https://www.architecturalrecord.com/art ... n-st-louis
https://www.architecturalrecord.com/art ... n-st-louis
Interesting article and architects for sure, but it does feel ironic that this development is supposed to promote community and conviviality or whatever and gates itself off completely from Olive with a narrow sidewalk that doesn't even have street trees. Seems designed for residents to just enter/exit through alley garages and Olive just happens to be their address.
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I'm sure the community inside the development will be pretty inclusive and nice, but yeah it will functionally be completely separate from the surrounding area
Sounds like a great exhibit theme, possibly for the Pulitzer?PeterXCV wrote: ↑Dec 14, 2024Interesting article and architects for sure, but it does feel ironic that this development is supposed to promote community and conviviality or whatever and gates itself off completely from Olive with a narrow sidewalk that doesn't even have street trees. Seems designed for residents to just enter/exit through alley garages and Olive just happens to be their address.
Sheesh, with this development walling itself off from the street, and the street being closed for (likely) years, might as well make this a private street and get it over with.
It's fine if you want to hole yourself off from the neighborhood, but can we at least put some d*mn trees along the sidewalk?
It's fine if you want to hole yourself off from the neighborhood, but can we at least put some d*mn trees along the sidewalk?
Such small windows and high HOA fee ($920/mo) https://www.stlmag.com/design/property/ ... nd-center/