I don't remember hearing anything about this project (I apologize if its covered in another thread). There's details in this morning's PD Downtown Progress Report insert on page 22. States "new construction of a 3/4 acre park and plaza just north of the Old Post Office. The project will include landscaping, water features, public art, and space for events." Developer is Downtown Now, start date is Fall 2006 cost is $6.5M. A decent rendering is also provided.
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What is this "PD Downtown Progress Report"? It's not in my paper. Maybe just city subscribers got it?
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^ its an insert in the middle of the paper... I just got mine out of the box on the street... it had one
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It's available online from the Downtown Partnership:
http://www.downtownstl.org/docs/2006Dow ... essRpt.pdf
http://www.downtownstl.org/docs/2006Dow ... essRpt.pdf
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^Whew! Thank you Deb. I almost had to waste a dollar on an edition of the Post-Disgrace....
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Glad I could help - we need to keep that dollar in St. Louis, not Davenport. 
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Yeah - I would much rather they funnel their money into building a new building ... and I note that the Roberts tower is not in the rendering ... I know that they have been having some difficulties coordinating the two - any word on if they've learned to play nice.
Actually, there is a rendering of the Roberts Tower in another part of the DT Progress Report.
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When Cross County opens early Fall 2006, not a single bus will travel down Locust anymore (or Olive either, where east of Tucker). Thus, no more people waiting for the many outbound buses on a weekday afternoon along Locust. So then, when this plaza is completed, the bus stop will move from the corner of Locust and 9th to hopefully 8th and Locust, since outbound expresses will now be on 8th.
As dead as Locust is, the buses at least give some "eyes on the street" via waiting bus patrons. But I can imagine haughty Tower interests not wanting stigmatized bus riders waiting near their doorman-controlled entrance. I hope then the Roberts Brothers, themselves originally from the largely transit-dependent northside, just remember where they come from. That, and you'd think transit's added "eyes on the street" could help keep this umpteenth urban plaza from becoming just another Downtown park for the homeless.
As dead as Locust is, the buses at least give some "eyes on the street" via waiting bus patrons. But I can imagine haughty Tower interests not wanting stigmatized bus riders waiting near their doorman-controlled entrance. I hope then the Roberts Brothers, themselves originally from the largely transit-dependent northside, just remember where they come from. That, and you'd think transit's added "eyes on the street" could help keep this umpteenth urban plaza from becoming just another Downtown park for the homeless.
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What you would have prefered a classic irreplaceable building like the Century and not have chased the only downtown Walgreens into the hole that is StL Center?
Sorry for being negative.
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DeBaliviere wrote:It's available online from the Downtown Partnership:
http://www.downtownstl.org/docs/2006Dow ... essRpt.pdf
Thanks. I wish they would have included it in my version, but I guess they chose to limit it.
Small clarification: downtown once had two Walgreens, one in the Century and one in St. Louis Center. The one in the Century was the hole in the wall.
I don't have a problem with small parks like this in the city. I just get annoyed by the vast expanses of unused land that dominate our downtown. Case in point, the Gateway Mall. Small greenspaces (well designed) are pretty essential in most urban locales around the world.
And they're better than a surface lot. But we don't need to be overrun with greenspace.
And they're better than a surface lot. But we don't need to be overrun with greenspace.
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The 1974 downtown plan published by Downtown St. Louis, Inc. envisions a plaza on this block with a tall, modern-style building between the plaza and the Mayfair Hotel.
If this plan is 32 years old, clearly we need to make it happen. The times have not changed at all, have they?
If this plan is 32 years old, clearly we need to make it happen. The times have not changed at all, have they?
ecoabsence wrote:The 1974 downtown plan published by Downtown St. Louis, Inc. envisions a plaza on this block with a tall, modern-style building between the plaza and the Mayfair Hotel.
Interesting. That sounds exactly like what the Roberts' are planning. Give us a few decades, and maybe all the other old "downtown plans" will finally be built.
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^Including criss-crossing interstates and 12 lane boulevards? Please...all previous downtown plans need to be burned in a public ceremony at Kiener Plaza. The city desperately needs an update.
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wow .. what the hell is on page ten? Don't tell me St. Louis ever resembled that - is it London?
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What's up on page 4? That looks like the little plaza next to the condo tower the Roberts brothers want to build. If we must have a plaza, I hope it looks like that, with the cool video screen.
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no doubt. You know - if done right - this area could really be impressive. There aren't too many cities that have the opportunity to hand carve a huge swath right smack in the heart of their city .... we should strive for awe
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markofucity wrote:wow .. what the hell is on page ten? Don't tell me St. Louis ever resembled that - is it London?
That was a proposal from the early 20th century.
Check out page 8 - there's a cool building where the Bowling Hall of Fame now stands. I know which one I'd prefer to have.
I believe the Lions Oil building to the left once was home to the giant "Lindy Squared" mural.