The Swan and Taylor Building looks like Chroma. This is just a portion of Green Street’s plan for the general area. More to come!
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Looks like there's plenty of room for a second phase!chriss752 wrote:The Swan and Taylor Building looks like Chroma. This is just a portion of Green Street’s plan for the general area. More to come!
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Quite a day of announcements for The Grove...
https://www.cityscene-stl.com/post/majo ... -and-vista
https://www.cityscene-stl.com/post/majo ... -and-vista
^ Thanks for the link, I believe everything mentioned here is what that link discusses though.
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Ah, okay, my bad. That link really wasn't working for me on my work browser for whatever reason.
This is extremely exciting stuff.
This is extremely exciting stuff.
This link takes you to the Park Central Development Meeting Agenda. It's 62 pages of info, including maps, renderings, data, etc. Much more info than can be shown here or on Chris's site.
https://www.parkcentraldevelopment.org/ ... Lite-1.pdf
https://www.parkcentraldevelopment.org/ ... Lite-1.pdf
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Looks like a building permit was already submitted for 4310 Vista. $300k.
Edit: This is not one of the projects above, but is the old Vista Place proposal. Unsure if it's been reworked or not, but looks like the critical mass of development is almost here.
Edit: This is not one of the projects above, but is the old Vista Place proposal. Unsure if it's been reworked or not, but looks like the critical mass of development is almost here.
If all of those projects go through, it is going to bring so many new residents into the City. Great to see progress on such a scale!
I drove by the site today, BJC's new parking lot borders this site, so it would be a tiny distance from the back of this new building to another site for a second Phase. Still, room to grow.debaliviere wrote:Looks like there's plenty of room for a second phase!chriss752 wrote:The Swan and Taylor Building looks like Chroma. This is just a portion of Green Street’s plan for the general area. More to come!
Framer, thanks for passing the linkframer wrote:This link takes you to the Park Central Development Meeting Agenda. It's 62 pages of info, including maps, renderings, data, etc. Much more info than can be shown here or on Chris's site.
https://www.parkcentraldevelopment.org/ ... Lite-1.pdf
Gill's project notes a Nov 2019 construction start. They must be pretty far along on this project and have some confidence in financing unless I'm missing something.
If they already own the land and the contractor for the first one has the bandwidth and the lender on the first one made money, then I can see how it’d move pretty fast. Hopefully there are more replicants to come.dredger wrote:Framer, thanks for passing the link Gill's project notes a Nov 2019 construction start. They must be pretty far along on this project and have some confidence in financing unless I'm missing something.
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^Seconded big time.
A whole lot to like has been posted today. Should all this begin within a similar time frame this would qualify a mini boom for the Grove for sure. Would sure love to see some ripple effects start moving towards Shaw down Vandeventer (although we already have multiple signs of this).
Agreed on reconnecting the street grid. About damn time. We are needing a healthy dose of this throughout a large number of neighborhoods.
A whole lot to like has been posted today. Should all this begin within a similar time frame this would qualify a mini boom for the Grove for sure. Would sure love to see some ripple effects start moving towards Shaw down Vandeventer (although we already have multiple signs of this).
Agreed on reconnecting the street grid. About damn time. We are needing a healthy dose of this throughout a large number of neighborhoods.
Also, I don't want to volunteer anyone else for a project but I would deem these all worthy of individual threads, especially the ~300 unit project. I almost missed that one completely among all the great projects above.
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Would be interesting to know what the typical percentage of tenants are new city residents in these types of new construction projects... I'm rather skeptical that they attract a lot of new residents that wouldn't otherwise move into the city. But they definitely impact where in the city they land.
Here are a couple of screen shots showing the locations of Green Street's proposals:
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Where’s 3 at?framer wrote:Here are a couple of screen shots showing the locations of Green Street's proposals:
So, I guess this project will replace the future phases of the View @ Newstead, Adam's Grove apartments, and the potato rowhouses along Newstead.
And it looks like there will be just three old buildings left on this block of Vista Ave., and of all the buildings worthy of preserving, only one will remain. The Norfolk block is almost as bad. I like most of these projects, but all the demolition? Not so much.
And it looks like there will be just three old buildings left on this block of Vista Ave., and of all the buildings worthy of preserving, only one will remain. The Norfolk block is almost as bad. I like most of these projects, but all the demolition? Not so much.
^^I was wondering about that too. I guess 3 is the monster apartment building at Swan and Taylor, which is the big grey trapezoid on the left of the top image, with most of it off the map.
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I will miss those corner buildings that got torn down at Newstead and Vista, but in terms of what is replacing it I can't complain too much.
I'm kinda curious about the glazed pavement in the rendering. But yes, fully agree.framer wrote:^Love the glazed green brick on that one.
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The one thing about the plan for a mix of apartments and various townhouses is that it almost feels like the developer is thinking long term in that a apartment tenant might move over to starter townhome and then upgrade to a nice townhome over a decade or two. Wonder how much thought went into that.