I would think they are just trying to have options for different tastes for people that want to live in the area. Not everyone wants to rent.dredger wrote:The one thing about the plan for a mix of apartments and various townhouses is that it almost feels like the developer is thinking long term in that a apartment tenant might move over to starter townhome and then upgrade to a nice townhome over a decade or two. Wonder how much thought went into that.
^ Agree, that makes the most sense.
Curious if anyone thinks if the developer might have also looked at in the perspective of what a renter now might be interested in say 5 years, 10 years or longer done the road. The city in its land rich position in which the city/LRA owns way too many properties themselves gives developers the opportunity to land bank and develop over a longer period.
Curious if anyone thinks if the developer might have also looked at in the perspective of what a renter now might be interested in say 5 years, 10 years or longer done the road. The city in its land rich position in which the city/LRA owns way too many properties themselves gives developers the opportunity to land bank and develop over a longer period.
The vision for their replacement has had 5 iterations in the last 2 1/2 years. First was the 3 story modern apartment buildings, which then went a bit more upscale and became 4-story apartment buildings called The Vistas, then became luxury townhomes, then the potato rowhouses shown in Feb. on the View at Newstead thread. Now we are back to 3-story apartment buildings.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:I will miss those corner buildings that got torn down at Newstead and Vista, but in terms of what is replacing it I can't complain too much.
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Seems like this board has a tendency towards immediacy (myself certainly included) so...a win that over 2 1/2 years we're full circle and *it sounds like* happy with this?
The photo-shopped grassy area will be part of the massive WUMC parking lot. The rest of that lot south to the railroad tracks belongs to Jenkin-Guerin. They don't seem to use it for anything other than random trailer parking, but they are an industrial lubricant company, and have owned it for a long time, so that lot could be a toxic mess.debaliviere wrote:Looks like there's plenty of room for a second phase!chriss752 wrote:The Swan and Taylor Building looks like Chroma. This is just a portion of Green Street’s plan for the general area. More to come!
I would describe a win as the viable, century-old commercial buildings that stood on those corners rehabbed and occupied years ago, or any time since ForestWest (WU) acquired them a decade or so ago.newstl2020 wrote:Seems like this board has a tendency towards immediacy (myself certainly included) so...a win that over 2 1/2 years we're full circle and *it sounds like* happy with this?
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Just drove through the area and down Taylor tonight. The WashU parking lot is already going in - curb cut onto Taylor is also getting ready for concrete. I'd love to see them open up all the roads (Vista, Norfolk, Swan) to Taylor and then really clean up the Taylor & Hunt intersection. Right now that corner is nothing more than a random mix of pavement and broken curb cuts.
The project also proposes to provide major infrastructure improvements that will consist of: Milling and Paving Streets, Cobra head and street light replacements. Sidewalks , ADA Curbs and Ramps, and the opening of the street grid to access Taylor Ave.
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Oh awesome! Ok - so my only other wishful thinking item is that some cool reuse of the warehouses on Hunt will come in the near future. Retail doesn't make a lot of sense being that far away from the main Grove strip, but they could make some cool lab or office space for a startup looking to expand.
Quite the impressive development pipeline in the Grove between Green Street’s laundry list, the Gills 4440 Manchester and 4215 Arco projects, Chroma 2.0, Station G renovation on Chouteau, the 4475 Chouteau corner infill project, Spencer Development’s 4101 Manchester project, the Grove “Triangle” auto garage property being marketed for possible restaurant conversion and office construction. And probably a few I’m forgetting and a few that are still being baked before announcement.
I suppose DT and Clayton have more current construction going on because of the scale of BPV and Centene, but there’s really no other neighborhood or area that compares to the Grove’s depth and diversity of proposed projects.
I suppose DT and Clayton have more current construction going on because of the scale of BPV and Centene, but there’s really no other neighborhood or area that compares to the Grove’s depth and diversity of proposed projects.
I think a lot of these new developments are a direct response to what's going on at Cortex. Many of these developments are likely being marketed to people not even from the St. Louis area. It seems many locals have a stigma to these inner city neighborhoods that transplants simply do not have.
What's even more exciting for me to contemplate is that after these projects are finished and we get another round of infill after that, the lots available for redevelopment will start to get rather thin on the ground and developers will likely need to get started on a new neighborhood in the City.wabash wrote:Quite the impressive development pipeline in the Grove... but there’s really no other neighborhood or area that compares to the Grove’s depth and diversity of proposed projects.
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I've tried searching for this, but can't find it on the forum - what is going in at the SE corner of Hunt and Tower Grove? This building has been waiting for siding for a few months now...
It will be some sort of art studio and house. It will be clad in corten steelchaifetz10 wrote:I've tried searching for this, but can't find it on the forum - what is going in at the SE corner of Hunt and Tower Grove? This building has been waiting for siding for a few months now...
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Ahhhh thats it. Makes sense why Geo STL and the building permits both listed it as residential now.
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As of yesterday, the front doors were boarded up. Unsure what the current status is.
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^ moving along.... the corten exterior is getting slapped on and has a bit of pre-distressed jeans quality about it.
Also that vacant two-story multi-fam across Tower Grove a bit has been flipped again for a pretty big $$ jump... wouldn't be surprised to hear something soon about redevelopment.
Also that vacant two-story multi-fam across Tower Grove a bit has been flipped again for a pretty big $$ jump... wouldn't be surprised to hear something soon about redevelopment.
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Once this weatherizes a bit more, it's really going to look cool. Hunt is about to become a hopping street of modern homes and renovations with Grove South going in near by too.
Interesting that a new concept, RecessSTL, will go into the Plumbers Supply building for a few months before the new development kicks in. Testing the waters I’m sure, but if successful I wonder if that concept would find a spot in any of the announced/future developments around the Grove. Reported by STLBJ this morning.
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Anybody know if a tenant's been found for the retail space in 4475 Chouteau? The apartments will be available next month with Aventura at Forest Park branding. The retail space is only 400-something square feet so I'm curious what could even fit in there.
Great write-up in Forbes magazine about the opening exhibit at Projects + Exhibitions new gallery on Manchester (the former White Flag space). I'm not too interested in fashion design, but apparently this show is a pretty big deal:
"World’s Largest Alexander McQueen Collection Alongside Cherished Photos Reveal The True Artist"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/natashagur ... 6b3c2411b6
"World’s Largest Alexander McQueen Collection Alongside Cherished Photos Reveal The True Artist"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/natashagur ... 6b3c2411b6