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PostNov 18, 2019#701

They are in the middle of their capital campaign to raise money for it. Seems to be going well. 

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PostNov 20, 2019#702

A little write up in the PD about the booming development in the Grove:
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 2518b.html

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PostNov 20, 2019#703

Has anyone heard anything about the 4101 Manchester project?   No new building permits have been issued past the drilling piers per plans back in March.

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PostNov 21, 2019#704

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Has anyone heard anything about the 4101 Manchester project?   No new building permits have been issued past the drilling piers per plans back in March.
I am still wondering what happened to that "2-year development clock" mentioned in the 2016 RFP.  Is someone hitting the snooze button, or did the city forget to wind it?

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PostDec 04, 2019#705

Some pics from WUMCRC's Facebook page:





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PostDec 04, 2019#706

There is a "Bar K" bar coming.  It will be on McRea.   I tried copying the link from stltoday.com but it would work.

Looks like a cool concept I will definitely check it out with my pooch.

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PostDec 04, 2019#707

^^ I can't think of the proper name, maybe headhouse, for the building that was part of the old natural gas storage facility but it came out great.  Inside must be something else if those are skylights on the roof.   

Maybe a long shot for future development but it would be great if they could find a way to extend the new corner office building or add another development so it takes up some of the hotel surface parking lot along the street.  Extending street wall to at least the apartments  

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PostDec 05, 2019#708

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Some pics from WUMCRC's Facebook page:

Man that is depressing...  Somehow, they took an historic building in a historic neighborhood, and managed to make it look like a bank branch along a highway access road in Litchfield, Illinois.

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PostDec 05, 2019#709

Wait, are you criticizing Greater Goods' renovation or just that stretch in general?  If it's the latter, then yes I agree.  If its the former, then I'm not sure what else you expected?  They've done a pretty awesome job in breathing new life into this.  

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PostDec 05, 2019#710

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^^ I can't think of the proper name, maybe headhouse, for the building that was part of the old natural gas storage facility but it came out great.  Inside must be something else if those are skylights on the roof.   

Maybe a long shot for future development but it would be great if they could find a way to extend the new corner office building or add another development so it takes up some of the hotel surface parking lot along the street.  Extending street wall to at least the apartments  
The historic register calls the three structures that are associated with these a pump house, valve house, and a natural gas storage tank/gasometer. The one we're redoing is the "pump house" - there's some of the old photos here: 

https://dnr.mo.gov/shpo/nps-nr/07000020.pdf

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PostDec 05, 2019#711

^ thanks for the correct verbiage.   Pump House makes perfect sense when you start talking tanks, pipe and valves for the old storage facility

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PostDec 06, 2019#712

Looks like the Grove South project is really kicking into gear along Hunt.  Two new construction homes at 4311 Hunt and 4315 Hunt recently received front brick veneers and interior finishings appear to be going in.  

A few doors down at 4319 Hunt, another new construction is going up and it's pretty dang large.  I don't think this is Grove South as the owner is "345 DEVELOPMENT LLC" and the design doesn't match the Soho or Tribeca layouts.  

Edit:  Looking at the Grove South site, looks like the other lots on Hunt also sold this Fall.  So that's two more new construction homes that should be going up soon.  https://www.grovesouth.com/locations

2nd Edit:  Looks like WUMCRC beat me to the punch today:  

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PostDec 06, 2019#713

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The historic register calls the three structures that are associated with these a pump house, valve house, and a natural gas storage tank/gasometer. The one we're redoing is the "pump house" - there's some of the old photos here: 

https://dnr.mo.gov/shpo/nps-nr/07000020.pdf
Such a shame none of the gasometers survived. They were such landmarks through most of my life. There is or was even a very nice painting of the two off 44 hanging in Jesse Hall in Columbia. (Depicting a traffic jam during the afternoon commute, in fact. Social commentary in the form of oil on canvas.) Anyway . . . glad to see the pump house looking natty.

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PostDec 31, 2019#714

Demolition for 4440 Manchester is underway. It's hard to complain about the added density and new development, but losing two more of these four-family flats does make me just a little bit sad. The two remaining structures that will closely flank 4440 on each side are losing a lot of their context as a result, and might end up looking a little out of place.

However, the good news is that the demo contractor appears to be salvaging a lot of the building materials: bricks, framing, joists, windows, etc., so at least it's not all going to the landfill.

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PostJan 02, 2020#715

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Interesting that a new concept, RecessSTL, will go into the Plumbers Supply building for a few months before the new development kicks in. Testing the waters I’m sure, but if successful I wonder if that concept would find a spot in any of the announced/future developments around the Grove. Reported by STLBJ this morning.
Recess has become wildly successful and according to their owners their permanent location will be in McRee town 

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PostJan 02, 2020#716

Well, there are only so many buildings in McRee remaining - any guesses as to which one?  My bet would be either the location that Narrow Gauge was initially planning on or a building like the Caribbean Cream building on Folsom.

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PostJan 02, 2020#717

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Well, there are only so many buildings in McRee remaining - any guesses as to which one?  My bet would be either the location that Narrow Gauge was initially planning on or a building like the Caribbean Cream building on Folsom.
The way the pitchforks came out for the Narrow Gauge proposal, I can't see that location working, and as far as I know the Caribbean Creme building is being used.  If it was actually in McRee Town / Botanical Heights, seems best bet would be somewhere on Park Ave.

Seems more likely to me that they would be on the section of McRee Ave. that is in FPSE.  The more industrial portion where they have talked about the dog bar going in.

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PostJan 02, 2020#718

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chaifetz10 wrote:
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Has anyone heard anything about the 4101 Manchester project?   No new building permits have been issued past the drilling piers per plans back in March.
I am still wondering what happened to that "2-year development clock" mentioned in the 2016 RFP.  Is someone hitting the snooze button, or did the city forget to wind it?
Anyone know any more about what is going on with this parcel?

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PostJan 02, 2020#720

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Not sure if Lien filings is a good indicator as my own employer, as a contractor, will file liens on any project not bonded.   In other words, making sure you have a lien on file is a good business practice if their isn't a payment bond from a surety backing up the project.  Which is the case for a lot of private work.  

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PostJan 02, 2020#721

^^I figured that was coming soon.  I'd guess there is one coming from Trivers as well, since I don't think they were paid either.  Hence the reason they said several months ago that they were no longer involved with the project, and why Spencer could no longer use their renderings.

^I'm not sure what good a lien on this property is, when it can't be sold or transferred to anyone but the LRA.  If the LRA "re-enters" the property, I believe they have to pay for any "improvements".  I suppose that payment could go straight to the lienholders, but even then, can the LRA afford to pay a million for this property?  Something tells me this is going to be tied up in the courts for awhile. 

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PostJan 03, 2020#722

Tim wrote:Demolition for 4440 Manchester is underway. It's hard to complain about the added density and new development, but losing two more of these four-family flats does make me just a little bit sad. The two remaining structures that will closely flank 4440 on each side are losing a lot of their context as a result, and might end up looking a little out of place.

However, the good news is that the demo contractor appears to be salvaging a lot of the building materials: bricks, framing, joists, windows, etc., so at least it's not all going to the landfill.

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What is going in here? Did I miss something :)


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PostJan 03, 2020#723

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Tim wrote:Demolition for 4440 Manchester is underway. It's hard to complain about the added density and new development, but losing two more of these four-family flats does make me just a little bit sad. The two remaining structures that will closely flank 4440 on each side are losing a lot of their context as a result, and might end up looking a little out of place.

However, the good news is that the demo contractor appears to be salvaging a lot of the building materials: bricks, framing, joists, windows, etc., so at least it's not all going to the landfill.

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What is going in here? Did I miss something :)
This is the site of the latest effort by Restoration St. Louis to hide a 5-story apartment building with camouflage.

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PostJan 03, 2020#724

dbehrens011 wrote:
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What is going in here? Did I miss something :)
It is at the end of this packet: PCD Packet 9-24-19

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PostJan 22, 2020#725

Looks like 1417-1433 Tower Grove is going to get a rehab. 10 apartments, $1.06M project cost.

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