New Life in the Grove....

dredger · PostJul 29, 2014#2012014-07-29T19:56+00:00

^ Looks like a piece of the puzzle came into place as per green light to demo existing building if a building permit is issued

http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... aa088.html

Ebsy · PostJul 30, 2014#2022014-07-30T03:18+00:00

I for one believe that the "donut building" is a cultural landmark and a worthy cause for historic preservation.

TheNewSaintLouis · PostJul 31, 2014#2032014-07-31T18:35+00:00

It's not a cultural landmark. In what way do you think it's a cultural landmark?
I rather see good projects like these sprout up all over the city. While the big to large projects get all the hoopla it's the smaller projects like these that actually connect ignite awaken a once dormant neighborhood like the grove & beyond.
I just can't believe how much it has changed since i was kid..
Now if Slu will get its act together. Has all that vacant land primed for development..

Ebsy · PostJul 31, 2014#2042014-07-31T22:02+00:00

I was being sarcastic.

symphonyplayer · PostAug 20, 2014#2052014-08-20T03:28+00:00

roger wyoming II wrote:^ Progress is being made on the new Commerce Bank on its existing Vandeventer property. Reliance Bank got re-zoning for this building:

rbeedee wrote:Lot upcoming in the Grove right now. There's a plan to renovate the building at 4301 Manchester (Manchester and Tower Grove) as a Reliance Bank. Images are from the Park Central Development packet:

Site plan:

Rendering:

I'm glad to see this building reutilized, but I don't love the traffic flow/curb cuts. Not sure if it could be improved, though. Any suggestions on how to better handle the parking lot/drive through/curb cuts?
But no work has begun on it yet; was curious if anyone knew if it was moving forward or not.

I passed by both sites today. Commerce bank is coming along with some sort of foam insulation on the outside of its walls. I missed what is becoming of the old site next to it? A tear down and redevelopment? A parking lot?

Also, at the reliance bank site, there are temporary fences around the whole building. Are they starting work there? Last I heard they had to keep the bicycle pictures... is that project going through?

Also the old Swedish building / new look a like kinda Swedish building is up and has electricity running in it. Prob only a month or 2 before Subway opens there...looks like enough room for another business to go in there as well...

Gateway City · PostAug 20, 2014#2062014-08-20T03:46+00:00

Someone is going to make a life for themselves above a drive-thru Subway.

Ebsy · PostAug 20, 2014#2072014-08-20T05:45+00:00

Gateway City wrote:Someone is going to make a life for themselves above a drive-thru Subway.

That's the American dream right there.

roger wyoming II · PostAug 20, 2014#2082014-08-20T13:21+00:00

^ iirc the second floor will be office and the one in Soulard will be residential. I'm pretty impressed with the project for what it is, although the added in/out traffic will be pretty crazy.

Down over on Manchester & TG, the bank project is moving forward in earnest with the building being fenced. I hope the Gill's get moving on the building(s) across the street before long.

Gateway City · PostAug 21, 2014#2092014-08-21T00:09+00:00

Ebsy wrote:
Gateway City wrote:Someone is going to make a life for themselves above a drive-thru Subway.
That's the American dream right there.

What a time to be alive.

framer · PostSep 05, 2014#2102014-09-05T02:30+00:00

Has the Hotel at Taylor & Chouteau been approved? Looked like they were pumping concrete at the site today.

PostSep 06, 2014#2112014-09-06T04:22+00:00

Goat answered my question in another thread. Yes, construction has started on the hotel:

http://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10452

dredger · PostSep 06, 2014#2122014-09-06T05:12+00:00

Next question, what are the chances that construction starts on the three corner retail & office building? That piece seems to fit the corner well and makes the over all hotel/street development along Taylor so much better.

Heck, extend the retail & building along Chouteau and put up a small structured parking garage on the remaining surface lot area for both the hotel and office/retail building.

roger wyoming II · PostSep 12, 2014#2132014-09-12T14:30+00:00

Looks like the old LGBT center is now a PR firm.

PostSep 23, 2014#2142014-09-23T17:19+00:00

Gateway City wrote:I'd rather see the parking lot see new infill like that shipping container building...Speaking of which, when is that supposed to be built?

Looks like It won't be built as it is planned for parking to service that mixed-use proposal across the street. Not sure about progress on Jason Deem's plan for the Empire Restaurant on Cherokee. But a Detroit developer hopes to get a conditional use permit next week to begin work on this Corktown development:

wabash · PostSep 23, 2014#2152014-09-23T18:05+00:00

^Take away the terraces and it kind of looks like a futuristic refugee camp.

framer · PostSep 24, 2014#2162014-09-24T02:52+00:00

I really don't see the fascination with shipping-container architecture. IMO, it just looks cluttered, junky, and cheap.

dredger · PostSep 24, 2014#2172014-09-24T03:27+00:00

I think it will be cluttered, junky and cheap. I have been around, in and out of a lot of shipping containers and can't picture them as livable spaces

roger wyoming II · PostSep 30, 2014#2182014-09-30T22:18+00:00

David Bruno adding gallery space in a pretty nice addition to the Vandeventer stretch of the Grove/FPSE:
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/a ... 45780.html

S. Vandeventer is rough on the edges (and the street is rough on the tires) but has a lot of potential and its great to see things already happening like this and the tech firm moving in a bit further down. IIRC their should also be some streetscaping coming up ahead of the IKEA opening so that should help even more.

quincunx · PostNov 20, 2014#2192014-11-20T18:29+00:00

UIC proposes three new homes on 4200 Gibson

http://www.parkcentraldevelopment.org/w ... ermark.pdf

nextSTL.com coverage

http://nextstl.com/2014/11/uic-set-brea ... mes-grove/

roger wyoming II · PostDec 15, 2014#2202014-12-15T23:11+00:00

An amazing year for the Grove/FPSE... a few single family infills +

Completed
Aventura at Forest Park Phase II - 4431 Chouteau (50 units)
New I-64 bridges/Tower Grove Interchange
Manchester Avenue Building Rehabs: 4191 for The Demo, 4195 for The Ready Room, 4465 for UCBC Grove Brewery
Commerce Bank @ Manchester & Vandeventer
1245 S. Vandeventer rehab for Bruno David Projects

Under Construction
Home2Suites Hilton (Chouteau & Taylor)
Reliance Bank (renovation @ Manchester & Tower Grove)

Planned
4321-29 Manchester mixed-use modern infill (20 units + ground floor commercial)
4001 Chouteau - mixed-use Chouteau's Grove (300 units + 75K sq. ft. commercial including grocery)
Commercial/retail at Chouteau and Taylor

quincunx · PostDec 17, 2014#2212014-12-17T00:17+00:00

Incredible someone is going to spend $500k on a house four blocks south of Manchester at Newstead and Hunt. The plan is to integrate the little house already there into a bigger one.

http://www.parkcentraldevelopment.org/w ... tation.pdf

ttricamo · PostDec 17, 2014#2222014-12-17T11:00+00:00

I fully understand what UIC is. What exactly is park central?

roger wyoming II · PostDec 17, 2014#2232014-12-17T13:55+00:00

^ It is the community development organization serving FPSE and part of CWE -- tied to the 17th Ward.

debaliviere · PostDec 17, 2014#2242014-12-17T15:21+00:00

And there are also proposals from four developers to build on scattered sites in FPSE: http://nextstl.com/2014/12/fpse-homes/

roger wyoming II · PostDec 17, 2014#2252014-12-17T16:11+00:00

Pretty amazing developments happening in both FPSE and McRee Town... and the funny thing is that none of this action is being pursued buy the Gills. I wonder why they've been so quiet after the pull-back from their Newstead/Manchester plan.

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