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doug · PostMar 09, 2007#4512007-03-09T16:07+00:00

I think the parking garage will be quite ugly. How about we get MetroLink to run until 4 AM and then possibly reducing parking? Does anyone ever think of this? Wait, that would require more tax dollars.

This is better than the Ameristar but that isn't saying a lot. I would rather have the Admiral back cruising up and down the Mississippi.

mattonarsenal · PostMar 09, 2007#4522007-03-09T23:58+00:00

Everything in Las Vegas is so out of scale with reality it is hard to tell how big those casino's are.

To put this in perspective the Bellagio complex covers just short of 90 acres and the hotel is 510 feet tall.

Stick this in downtown St. Louis and it would cover roughly the area bounded by Broadway-Market-Tucker-Washington, with the hotel building only 120 feet shorter than the Arch.

The MGM has almost 4 acres of gaming space alone.

markinlondon · PostMar 10, 2007#4532007-03-10T14:49+00:00

It’s good to see this project being built at a fast pace. Looks like they are making quick progress on the tunnel also. And open by Thanksgiving? I kind of thought it would run into the beginning of 2008.

wheelscomp · PostMar 13, 2007#4542007-03-13T20:26+00:00

Wow, I know Ive been kinda obsessed with the Pinnacle webcam lately, but theyve completely updated it. Its now like the Clayco webcams that allow you to zoom, and see all the past images to view the total construction. Check it out!

http://www.oxblue.com/pro/open/?webPath ... tlouiscity

courtland · PostMar 13, 2007#4552007-03-13T21:25+00:00

wheelscomp wrote:Wow, I know Ive been kinda obsessed with the Pinnacle webcam lately, but theyve completely updated it. Its now like the Clayco webcams that allow you to zoom, and see all the past images to view the total construction. Check it out!

http://www.oxblue.com/pro/open/?webPath ... tlouiscity

wow...that's the best webcam I ever saw!

manchester · PostMar 13, 2007#4562007-03-13T21:45+00:00

Thanks for the heads up......I always like checking out the webcam stickies and I frequently check Claycos webcams too. I'm glad they updated the camera, plus we can watch this badboy grow all the way to the top as opposed to the old fixed camera.

stlbiggestfan · PostMar 14, 2007#4572007-03-14T02:19+00:00

It's almost unbelievable what you see by checking-out the Webcam every day. The building is going up so fast you can see some serious progress every week or so.

wheelscomp · PostMar 14, 2007#4582007-03-14T03:24+00:00

By going back week by week you can see that they complete about half a story per week of the hotel. Pretty cool, man

tb1000 · PostMar 14, 2007#4592007-03-14T15:42+00:00

Will someone please explain to me what the deal is with the love affair of the tan/sand/nude/whatever colored facades to our new buildings?

Park East Tower

4545 Lindell

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southslider · PostMar 14, 2007#4602007-03-14T15:54+00:00

^Just speculation, but maybe the pigment is cheaper than other additives and the resulting look easier to neglect maintenance.

steve · PostMar 14, 2007#4612007-03-14T15:58+00:00

Also, there's the "Budweiser Principle."

Make your product as inoffensive to average tastes as possible.

jmedwick · PostMar 14, 2007#4622007-03-14T16:41+00:00

^ I bet steve is right. I am who hates tan...

It could also be called the Applebees Principal or the Chillies Prinicpal

threeonefour · PostMar 14, 2007#4632007-03-14T16:54+00:00

I'm no fan of tan either. It reminds me of dreadful Kansas suburbs like Lenexa and Olathe, where the faux stucco homes are always...grey and tan.

steve · PostMar 14, 2007#4642007-03-14T17:03+00:00

ThreeOneFour wrote:I'm no fan of tan either. It reminds me of dreadful Kansas suburbs like Lenexa and Olathe, where the faux stucco homes are always...grey and tan.

and made out of ticky tacky?

manchester · PostMar 14, 2007#4652007-03-14T21:26+00:00

I thought I read that the hotel is supposed to be 24 stories tall, does anyone know if thats correct? After looking at the webcam if the 24 stories is right it looks like its about halfway complete in overall height.

I was also looking at the green facade and thinking about all the lighting that will be illuminating the hotel, I think this has the potential to really make a great impact on the skyline as well as add some color. Hopefully its not too obnoxious that it distracts from the arch.

thewayofthearch · PostMar 15, 2007#4662007-03-15T14:35+00:00

22 stories, I believe.

appraisalman · PostMar 15, 2007#4672007-03-15T14:39+00:00

I thought I heard it was going to be 19 stories and about 300 feet tall.

arch city · PostMar 15, 2007#4682007-03-15T15:28+00:00

Emporis says 25-stories. I personally have seen 23-24 stories.

Emporis: Four Seasons Hotel, St. Louis

moorlander · PostMar 15, 2007#4692007-03-15T15:49+00:00

don't trust emporis....

from pinnaclestlouis.com

Rising nearly 300 feet into the St. Louis skyline, the 19-story hotel tower

manchester · PostMar 16, 2007#4702007-03-16T14:11+00:00

I emailed PNK and got this response to the the height of the building:

While the hotel tower goes to level 19, it is really only 18 floors as there is no level 13, just like in most buildings. The confusion for some people, I believe, occurs where the architectural element of the ‘light box’ comes into play. Level 19 tops out at 220 feet, above that are several levels of machine rooms before the roof tops out at 248ft. Extending above that is the architectural element we call the ‘light box’. It is essentially a lighted element that will be seen from quite a distance and resembles the shape of the St Louis arch. The height of the entire building, including the light box is 289ft, which is 750 ft above sea level. Level one starts at 461ft above sea level.

I am curious to see how the final product looks in the skyline. I think it should stick out though being the tallest building (unless you count US Bank) on the North side of DT.

moorlander · PostMar 16, 2007#4712007-03-16T16:02+00:00

well at least we'll be able to see one building at night. Too bad the mgt of the other highrises are too cheap to illuminate their buildings at night.

kc_visiter · PostMar 16, 2007#4722007-03-16T16:21+00:00

that is funny they skipped level 13, presumably out of superstition or for tradition's sake. I didn't think they did that anymore. I live on the 13th floor of a renovated 1920s office building. It was originally the "14th" floor but was changed to 13th after the condo conversion to eliminate confusion. I thought it would have been kind of charming to keep the original 13th floor ommission, plus it sounded more impressive to be on the 14th as opposed to the 13th!

Expat · PostMar 16, 2007#4732007-03-16T16:36+00:00

^I don't know what is standard in new buildings nowadays in regards to the 13th Floor. However, don't you think that casino hotels are especially concerned about bad luck?

buckethead · PostMar 16, 2007#4742007-03-16T16:37+00:00

Gamblers are probably one of the most superstitious groups out there.

the central scrutinizer · PostMar 16, 2007#4752007-03-16T16:40+00:00

buckethead wrote:Gamblers are probably one of the most superstitious groups out there.

And the one that is least able to understand basic math.

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