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This reminds me of the other tunnel under Broadway that connects the Millennium Hotel with the Stadium Garage.

Doug wrote:What about the huge sign along 70? Who likes it?

Its alright.... nothing but digital bilboards for Lumiere... But it certainly attracts attention. In a way, it sort of draws focus away from the glow hawk. The technology is far superior in the sense that the glowhawk is very pixelated when graphics are applied. If the glowhawk could do what the Mondo sign does, now we are talking...



I see it from my desk every day. Makes me wish we had our own version of Times Square

^Isn't the Post Office Plaza park they are building next to the Roberts Theatre supposed to have a video board, etc?



St. Louis Times Square

Doug wrote:What about the huge sign along 70? Who likes it?

I must confess, I like it. Where it is, of course, not somehwere near old bricks and morter buildings. But well place in glitz-land.

I probably have the closest residence to the sign and it's like having a big screen on my balcony. Except it's like a repeat of the 10 same commercials and the girl seductively eating the burger just isn't very convincing.

wife and i were walking towards skybox from lumiere last night and we noticed the new gigantic sign (hard not to). i think it looks over-the-top... me likes it!

Knowing the management, I will bring it up the next time I speak to them. I think it's a great idea, as I'm tired of seeing the same 5 minutes as well.



You mentioned other places doing it. Do you have specific examples I could use to illustrate the idea?

shownde wrote:

jmatthewmckee wrote:I wonder if the management would be interested in having "fine art" video curated for this. As an artist working in video, I drool at the thought of having my work up there. I know of other large video boards in other cities that have done this quite successfully.

^ More disposable income, makes since.

citysoul wrote:

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:I would suggest the average IQ of people in casinos is below the national average.

Actually, the American Gaming Association reports, "The average U.S. casino customer is more likely to have attended college than the typical American (56 percent vs. 54 percent)."

Those numbers are heavily skewed by Vegas though. Not too many of those without a college degree are going to be making frequent trips to Vegas. It ain't exactly cheap anymore. I'm pretty sure most of those attending the myriad of conventions in Vegas probably have college degrees as well - well, at least most of the conventions - the tattoo convention...maybe not. The numbers of all the other casinos in the country have to be really skewed the other way for the demographics to balance out like that...

Ok, first time there last night for dinner and cocktails - may I say I am impressed and WOW!

this place is gorgious and has made the landing an entertainment mecca again. The streets throughout downtown and The Landing were jammed packed with people and cars. This place was acked in every restaurant , club and bar.

We ate at the buffet restuarant KITCHEN - great food - great service and great setting.



What I like about this place is the size and the layout. You don't feel like you are in a casino only. NO NEON like Harrah's and the rest - this place is classy and contemporary. Sleek (like the name of their nightclub) in every turn. We parked free in the Four Seasons Hotel garage. Went to floor one - hotel valet lobby and then went through the "mall" area. The place is laid out so well that you feel like the 2 hotels (Four Seasons andHotel Lumiere) are just connected - not part of the casino. You also feel like you are in a upscale mallish plaza area - with several nice upscale stores and great dining and entertainment venues. The casino sits to the west of the corridor and is HUGE. It is also nicely tucked in there giving you a feel that it is seperate from the main cooridor you are walking. The jazz bar Aqua had live instrumental music. The pump in "Chill" dancy music throughout the rest of the cooridor and each venue takes on another style inside. The tunnel connecting downtown/dome to the complex is wonderful and very sleek as well... nice nice addition - and great entry from the dome plaza... love the location too - you enter on the SOUTH side of the dome area near the Drury Hotel and MAC buildings.



Later went to the 8th floor main lobby of the Four Seasons - 5 star all the way - very sheek and I think it looks better than any "W" Hotel I have ever been in. Felt like NYC. The Lobby flows out to a HUGE patio overlooking the city - the two infinity pools and the cocktail lounge indoor/outdoors with great chill music being piped in. This has to be one of the best views of the city from downtown - WOW! The place was packed folks packed everywhere!



If you haven't made it here yet - go!!!!! GO! This has completely changed St. Louis!



I know I sound a little crazy here - but really I think what Lumiere and Pinnacle have done here is better than anything we will see at Ballpark Village -



Phase II bring it on!

^ I agree, I wish they would get rid of that stupid loss limit, because if they did and let pinnacle go loose on that northern riverfront, it would be stimulus for other small retail, rehab, and produce foot traffic. They have proven with the 9 million dollar investment that they are willing to develop and make the investment, if we take the leash of of them.

GelatinousEndive wrote:

Doug wrote:What about the huge sign along 70? Who likes it?

I must confess, I like it. Where it is, of course, not somehwere near old bricks and morter buildings. But well place in glitz-land.

I was told over the weekend that the sign had a price tag of $28 million. Sounds steep, but that's what I was told.

I've heard $5 million, which is more reasonable.



[quote="MoorlanderI was told over the weekend that the sign had a price tag of $28 million. Sounds steep, but that's what I was told.[/quote]

Lumiere Place looms over historic warehouses



By Michael R. Allen - Posted on June 13th, 2008

Lumiere Place overlooks historically significant warehouses that could be rehabbed with tax credits. (Michael R. Allen photo)

Category:

Inside the Metropolis



Nestled between two prominent landmarks, the glitzy new Lumiere Place casino complex and the venerable Ashley Street Power House, stands a group of warehouse buildings. These aren’t the most iconic buildings – certainly not amid such strong competition. Still, the street wall presence of three buildings on Leonor K. Sullivan Drive between Carr and Biddle ties together disparate sections of riverfront fabric.



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http://thevitalvoice.com/node/494

OK



just caught a fireworks show at Lumiere



I guess they may have been having a party for the Susan Koman run



The glowhawk had the pink ribbon scrolling along with pink flames



During the fireworks the GLOWHAWK worked perfectly



Multi colors VERY IMPRESSIVE



They also had a huge fireball on the Arch side throughout the fireworks



Nice show

They were having their "6-month anniversary" celebration this weekend.

citywatcher wrote:OK



just caught a fireworks show at Lumiere



I guess they may have been having a party for the Susan Koman run



The glowhawk had the pink ribbon scrolling along with pink flames



During the fireworks the GLOWHAWK worked perfectly



Multi colors VERY IMPRESSIVE



They also had a huge fireball on the Arch side throughout the fireworks



Nice show

I've been to the 8th floor of the 4 Seasons a few times over the past few weeks and while I love it I am shocked by the craftsmanship of some things outside. A lot of the large tiles are loose and rock when you stand on them and the tiles around the fire pit aren't cut evenly with each other. The big sign is also a distraction as some friends of mine and I have pointed out BUT we love the place and will keep going back.

Lumiere Link (Tunnel connecting Downtown to Lumiere Place)







Lumiere Place / Four Seasons Hotel





















These photos are from my full downtown Summer 2008 Photo Thread online @ skyscraperpage. com: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=153647

The "TBD" event space on the second floor at LP will now officially be named Lumiere Theatre (how boring). It should fit up to 500 people (although I have no idea how)...



IN OTHER NEWS...

Admissions at Lumiere Place fell 7 percent from 622,088 in May to 578,315 in June. Revenue in June was $13.9 million, a 9 percent drop from May's revenue of $15.3 million.

http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... rround=lfn

Lumière Casino's pile of chips continues to grow

By Tim Logan

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

07/10/2008



Revenue at local casinos climbed 3.6 percent in June, according to figures released today by Missouri and Illinois gaming revenues.



As in recent months, most of the gain was generated by the new Lumière Place Casino downtown, which opened in December. Ameristar Casino in St. Charles also saw a small increase. Business was off at the region's other four casinos, especially the President, which was closed for much of June due to flooding. Revenue there fell 85 percent compared to the same month last year.



Overall, gamblers spent $84.9 million at St. Louis-area casinos in June, the lowest total since January.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument

I dont know if anyone else has noticed this but I think the casino has taken a lot of business away from downtown...esp Wash Ave. The bars and the clubs just aren't as crowded as they used to be and I feel the main reason is due to the casino. There are plwnty of ways to fix this but iy may end up having a major impacy on the revitalization. Also the fact that Mississippi Nights is a surface parking lot to serve the casino is a disgrace.

I don't know if the casino is impacting businesses on Washington Avenue as much as the current economic conditions. When people's budgets get tight one of the first things they cut back on is their discretionary spending. And, eating out/drinking out, especially at moderate to high end restaurants, definitely falls into that category.