^Yes, believe it or not, it is finally working the way it was supposed to. I'm looking forward to the flowing American flag on July 4th, just don't shoot off any fireworks next to it. 
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Magnatron wrote:ricke002 wrote:Magnatron wrote: Nice Shakespeare Reference, Gone corporate. I think Macbeth would have frequented Lumiere. I'd hate to be the dealer that dealt him a losing hand....
I'm pretty sure Stuart Scott said that, actually.
If he did, I am pretty sure he got it from Shakespeare... Its the most famous monologue in Macbeth, Act 5 Scene 5 "To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
No, yeah....Stuart Scott...unless Shakespeare also first said "You ain't got to go home, but you got to get the heck up outta here." I'm talking like way back in the mid-90's
Area casinos face uncertain odds
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
For years, it's been held as a sort of gospel in the casino industry: In good times, and in bad, people gamble. So the business of running casinos, the thinking went, was pretty much recession-proof.
Now that gospel is being put to the test.
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dweebe wrote:Area casinos face uncertain odds
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
For years, it's been held as a sort of gospel in the casino industry: In good times, and in bad, people gamble. So the business of running casinos, the thinking went, was pretty much recession-proof.
Now that gospel is being put to the test.
continues..
This is a short-term alarminst statement written by someone who doesn't know the stock markets (and especially this industry & sector fiscally), and supported by management within a media source that seeks out inflaming statements meant to cause undue worry, based on partial conception of thought, and sold to a scared consumer base.
Or, this story's crap. Nothing against the poster's posting this, not at all, but questioning the base & source of the story.
Give it a fiscal quarter, and then I'd actually look to buy their stock as opposed to damning the new construction today.
Glowhawk was bright green with falling dollar signs...
This could represent 3 things:
-Tax day (It's like money falling from the sky.... except when you owe a **** load)
-It's saying "Come, spend your money here"
-it's a literal interpretation of the falling value of the American Dollar
I am guessing #1
This could represent 3 things:
-Tax day (It's like money falling from the sky.... except when you owe a **** load)
-It's saying "Come, spend your money here"
-it's a literal interpretation of the falling value of the American Dollar
I am guessing #1
First vist for me today. The place is so high end that I felt dirty. I can't wait to see what St. Louis organization is first to book a meeting or conference at The Four Seasons. I'll have to buy a new wardrobe just to go!
For any of those type that like to gripe about having to live in St. Louis, go hang out at the bar in the Four Seasons a night or two. The atmosphere is so far from what St. Louis is traditionally framed that it should make you thrilled.
Any good definitions for the design? Asian-inspired avant garde minimalism with slight Prairie overtones? The interiors at night must be just incredible.
For any of those type that like to gripe about having to live in St. Louis, go hang out at the bar in the Four Seasons a night or two. The atmosphere is so far from what St. Louis is traditionally framed that it should make you thrilled.
Any good definitions for the design? Asian-inspired avant garde minimalism with slight Prairie overtones? The interiors at night must be just incredible.
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mazman wrote:It's actually a 72' x 58' HD Plasma TV that will be used a marque sign.
Heard it's just a large pylon sign going up, did the plans change?
Snapped a couple shots the other day. This thing is massive. Yes those are guys standing on top that I so conveniently highlighted for you...This seems to be only half of it
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I think the sign will be somewhat similar to this one @ the Wynn Las Vegas...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzdFKmuwesY
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymdkFyXB_4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzdFKmuwesY
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymdkFyXB_4&NR=1
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I am hating this project more as the time goes on. How was anybody able to entice the Four Seasons to be a part of this monstrosity. Where is good taste and architectural overview?
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southcitygent wrote:I am hating this project more as the time goes on. How was anybody able to entice the Four Seasons to be a part of this monstrosity. Where is good taste and architectural overview?
Nevermind that it is the only new structure built in Downtown in the last seventeen years that didn't involve the Federal Government paying for it.
The only new high rise construction in the totality of the City of Saint Louis since 1990 has been:
1. The Four Seasons Hotel.
2. The Eagleton.
3. The Federal Reserve's addition.
4. The Park East Tower
5. 4545 Lindell.
6. The Northwest Tower at BJC.
7. The Center for Advanced Medicine at BJC.
8. The Doisy Research Tower at SLU Med.
You may not like that it's a Casino, or that there's the Glowhawk, but let's at least be happy that it's something new. After all, one of the most prestigious hotel brands in the world decided it was a good place to set up their first site in the entire state. Plus, if there is a Phase 2 to the construction, it will net multiple new high rises, more than the making it all worthwhile.
I'd much rather have the gravel lot with weeds growing out of it......
I admit, there are some design flaws. I love the glowhawk but I hate the shape of the glowhawk. I dont care for the exterior but I love the interior... I dont care for the casino, but I love the hotel......Overall, There could have been a lot more out-of-box thinking on this project... But it's a start in an otherwise urban dead zone. While I do not accept that "anything is better than nothing", I cxan accept this development as a beneficial one
I admit, there are some design flaws. I love the glowhawk but I hate the shape of the glowhawk. I dont care for the exterior but I love the interior... I dont care for the casino, but I love the hotel......Overall, There could have been a lot more out-of-box thinking on this project... But it's a start in an otherwise urban dead zone. While I do not accept that "anything is better than nothing", I cxan accept this development as a beneficial one
You may not like that it's a Casino, or that there's the Glowhawk, but let's at least be happy that it's something new
"Hey, at least it's something!"
St. Louis' new motto.
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A half billion dollars in new investment, and the potential of a subsequent half billion, with high rise construction, productive reuse of Laclede's Landing, a new high end hotel brand, and the elimination of a giant gravel parking lot in Downtown. Yet, we hear so much complaining.
Where have I seen this before?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JvtlB_NzI8
Where have I seen this before?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JvtlB_NzI8
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I had two of my buddies down from Chicago recently. Neither had ever been to STL previously (but nonetheless believed it to be a "dump"). Anyways, they left w/ a great impression--took them to the City Muesum, CWE, Lafayette Square, dinner on the Hill, etc. They thought downtown was nice, and particularly were impressed with the new casino. Each had never seen a nicer casino outside of Vegas (and they go to Vegas a lot).
I occasionally work for a company on the landing. And now that the weather is nicer I can honestly say, i have never seen so much foot traffic down there now that this "horrid monstrocity" is up and operating. Its actually quite refreshing
I agree - I like the addition on the Landing and skyline and I definately think that the two hotels (especially the Four Seasons) are great additions to downtown as well.
I personally have no problem with this "enormous" thing either and I am not going to "b" about Pinnacle or any new construction. Love it or hate it... this place is upscale and the company is "dedicated" to St. Louis - and the landing. They will move on with further phases too - just watch.
I personally have no problem with this "enormous" thing either and I am not going to "b" about Pinnacle or any new construction. Love it or hate it... this place is upscale and the company is "dedicated" to St. Louis - and the landing. They will move on with further phases too - just watch.
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matguy70 wrote:I agree - I like the addition on the Landing and skyline and I definately think that the two hotels (especially the Four Seasons) are great additions to downtown as well.
I personally have no problem with this "enormous" thing either and I am not going to "b" about Pinnacle or any new construction. Love it or hate it... this place is upscale and the company is "dedicated" to St. Louis - and the landing. They will move on with further phases too - just watch.
I am watching, and all I see is a parking lot where they promise condo towers.
And a stupid, ugly sign along I-70 that blocks the view of their own tower!
Lumiere Place eyeing new concert venue
Lumiere Place may seem to have it all, but stay tuned for even more. Coming to an upstairs space in the new casino, in a room used recently to hold several St. Louis Fashion Week shows, is a small concert venue. The upcoming venue would keep Lumiere Place in line with most other casinos in the area including Harrah’s and Ameristar that have concert venues with national talent. The new spot would be in addition to the several restaurants, bars and lounges such as Sleek and Globar already at Lumiere Place. Michael Barker of the President Casino, who is overseeing the re-branding of the President Casino’s concert theater, is also involved with the nearby Lumiere Place’s upcoming venue. Both Lumiere and President Casino are owned by Pinnacle Entertainment. The two concert venues are being eyed to compliment each other with non-competing national acts.
Lumiere was absolutely packed this past Saturday!
A good portion of the people there had on their Cubs jerseys. What's the closest gambling from downtown Chicago like?
A good portion of the people there had on their Cubs jerseys. What's the closest gambling from downtown Chicago like?
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There are boats in western suburbs like Aurora and Joliet which are like Harrah's or Ameristar here, maybe a bit nicer, and there are boats in and around Gary, Indiana - haven't been to those in a long time, but they were about like Argosy last time I was there. So, if you live in the city it's at least a 40 minute drive with no traffic. There are regular attempts in the Illinois legislature to get a casino built in the Loop, but no success so far.JakeKTU wrote:Lumiere was absolutely packed this past Saturday!
A good portion of the people there had on their Cubs jerseys. What's the closest gambling from downtown Chicago like?
DeBaliviere wrote:JakeKTU wrote:Lumiere Place eyeing new concert venue
Huh. Kinda like Mississippi Nights.
That was my exact thought when I read the story.